Are my electrics safe?

[Toonlad]

RAF

1. you have raised a concern
2. posted on a public forum.
3.To be honest if it doesnt look right ,it wont be right.

Its not good enough for several reasons, as stated above.

Good luck, and I hope it works out well for you.

 

[LittleHelper]

The one that absolutely cracks me up is what he/she wrote in the brackets "(may connect to sockets in bedroom above)"
All i can guess is that they know theres a live, neutral , earth . But then again id be a bit worried to turn on the circuit !!

Should be an artist instead!!

 

[Jamzie]

The socket to the left doesn't look like it's 300mm away from the hob either.

Start again. Properly.

 

[Kate]

Drawing could have been done by OP not electrician. The socket in cupboard could have two of the cables 'through connected', not necessarily all 4 terminated in socket. Far right of drawing 'spur-on-spur'
chase below cooker isolator..so straight!! As mentioned by many, shouldn't be above.
i would have done everything different. Them sockets are so high above work tops.
i guess the cables below work top are 'floaters'

above all else...check it's covered by RCD!!!

 

[Kate]

I revise everything I just said after looking at drawing again. No I do not think its safe. Even with a 20a MCB and RCD, no. My opinion it's awful and I would do it again. I base this on that 20a is not enough for a kitchen, let alone however many more are on circuit in rest of the house.
OP you are not at immediate risk, don't get me wrong but in my opinion that is not adequate for modern living.

 

[Rockingit]

I base this on that 20a is not enough for a kitchen, let alone however many more are on circuit in rest of the house.

Well, here's a thing: I've a new-build recently signed off which SHOULD be running with a B32 RCBO for the kitchen ring, except it isn't as the RCBO was faulty on testing so as a temp I put in a 20A one as didn't have any more 32's to hand on that day. Now, it's still on the snags list to go back and change it, but the house has been lived in and used for about ten days....and I've had no calls saying the trip has gone. So, a 20A OCPD is running a dishwasher, washing machine, F/F, hood and six double sockets.

NOT suggesting that this is good practice, but it does go to show how we can constantly over-engineer things.

 

[telectrix]

all appliances on together might trip it though. diversity rules most of the time but not all the time.

 

[Rockingit]

all appliances on together might trip it though. diversity rules most of the time but not all the time.

Same could happen on a 32A though on the same principle!

 

[Kate]

I wouldn't risk it in a kitchen, and I don't get call backs when I'm finished
i would temporarily allow it..I am doing just that on a job at the minute. I wouldn't be comfortable leaving it like that, I am probably being over cautious..but that's me

 

[Rockingit]

I wouldn't risk it in a kitchen, and I don't get call backs when I'm finished

But I'm not finished yet...... :rofl:

 

[Kate]

But I'm not finished yet...... :rofl:

Exactly, you said u were going back. It's safe in the mean time all is good if u didnt do a temporary fix customer would ring u EVERYDAY asking when u r going back!!

 

[Kate]

But I'm not finished yet...... :rofl:

I'm not awake yet...did u think my post was related to yours? Sorry, everything I put was in response to OP. your a spark I am sure what u do is safe and right when u finish

 

[MDJ]

It's obvious the Job is rough, in fact very rough, but with a 20 amp MCB and RCD protection to the cabling the worse that can happen is a tripped breaker or RCD, the quality of the installation makes me believe it needs ripping out and starting again though and I would certainly add a 32 amp ring main into a kitchen myself, if fact if it was a new build I'd add 2, one for general sockets and one for the appliances, but there you are what's there is there and the customer will not want to spend any money per usual.

 

[tony mc]

It seems to be another one of those posts where members are fully discussing the situation between themselves but no further input from the op! Or is it just me .:censored:

 

[Rockingit]

It's obvious the Job is rough, in fact very rough, but with a 20 amp MCB and RCD protection to the cabling the worse that can happen is a tripped breaker or RCD, the quality of the installation makes me believe it needs ripping out and starting again though and I would certainly add a 32 amp ring main into a kitchen myself, if fact if it was a new build I'd add 2, one for general sockets and one for the appliances, but there you are what's there is there and the customer will not want to spend any money per usual.

That's interesting thinking on the 2 x rings. I've just done a kitchen refurb where I took a 6mm radial out to a grid box and did all the white goods from there as individuals (via 13A fuses, obviously).