Are you sure its 43.3p? DECC say otherwise

[SRE]

Yea but as you say you're the one who looks like the dodgy salesperson because you're not telling them what they want to hear. Unless you want to start wearing shiny suits and bryl cream - that's what happens. Just remember the personal recommendations you get because of the quality of work you do.

I'm still on with a quote I started in April last year - 3rd quote so far. They take my work and tout it round the other installers to get a better price. What's worse is I know this customer - I can't believe the cheek. Mind you I can't afford to be too picky at the mo

 

[The Solar King]

This may be of interest to you. Good to see there is honesty and integrity in this part of the media. I wonder if the redtops, the Daily Wail and Excess will follow suit?

UK green media agrees blackout on rogue solar PV companies - 31 Jan 2012 - News from BusinessGreen

 

[SolarCity]

Fabulous stance.

 

[The Solar King]

Just don't look at the advert bar on the right hand side of this page!!!!!!

 

[SolarCity]

I noticed that too. Isn't that out of Business Green's hands though?

 

[The Solar King]

Comes from Google Ads I think. Would need to contact to them about misrepresentation and advertising standards.

 

[SRE]

Actually I just looked at one of those adds - 12% ROI???? Not sure where that's coming from. No subcontractors - that'll be why they were sub-contracting from this forum last year then .....

Having said that it's a small price to pay to have a decent discussion with forum members and Dan has to make his money somewhere. I reckon customers looking on here for info will be far too switched on to be taken in by these ads anyway.

 

[TedM]

This is a user comment on that BusinessGreen page:

EDF have just told me that pending any further announcement they will be paying 21p for all installations after 12 Dec, pending the Supreme Court decision. If that goes against the government they will backdate payments to the installation date.

Posted by Sue Murray, 31 Jan 2012

 

[Matt_M]

This may be of interest to you. Good to see there is honesty and integrity in this part of the media. I wonder if the redtops, the Daily Wail and Excess will follow suit?

UK green media agrees blackout on rogue solar PV companies - 31 Jan 2012 - News from BusinessGreen

Isn't it ironic!

 

[SRE]

Ted - when will we know how many installations have gone ahead since the government announcement last week? Or maybe some figures for the weeks in the New Year might be useful????

 

[Nutmeg2]

but ... from 12 dec to end of March all should get 43.3. The question is about what happens in April for those installed after 12th Dec. Looks as if EDF intend to hold on to some money definitely owing or ..?

 

[TedM]

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from http://www.decc.gov.uk/assets/decc/...eekly-solar-pv-installation-and-capacity-.xls

 

[Gavin A]

I appreciate that this a difficult and uncertain time for all solar PV installers. Nonetheless, it is essential at this time that you only sell solar PV on the basis that, for an installation that takes place between 12 December 2011 and 2 March 2012, a consumer will get 43.3p/kWh for generation that takes place before 31 March 2012 and 21p for generation that takes place thereafter. It might be that a consumer who installs between these dates will end up getting 43.3p/kWh for the whole 25 years but this is far from certain at the moment and this expectation must not be the basis for any sale.

Please be aware that informing consumers they will definitely receive 43.3p for 25 years is mis-selling and it is a breach of the REAL Consumer Code. You must not agree a contract with a consumer on this basis. Please note that it is not acceptable to have a small print notice qualifying a misleading or incorrect claim. Should one of your consumers rely on receiving 43.3p/kWh for 25 years, but in the end does not, your company could end up refunding them the difference.
I have received a number of examples of misleading advertising. The Non-Compliance Panel has asked to receive a report at the end of March of any company putting out misleading advertising or otherwise seeking to exploit this time of uncertainty by pressurising consumers into signing contracts. I am currently compiling this report and will pass it to the Panel with details of the companies concerned.

an email from REAL. Hopefully some spanked botties coming up.

 

[Earthstore]

It is about time in all this shambles that REAL started taking some action, it is all well and good sending out an email, that is really going to frighten the life out of a salesman who will do whatever he can to earn his commission.
There are companies out there advertising 43.3p and selling at 43.3p, why don't they do something about it.
Stop them registering systems on the MCS for 1 month would do it, put it in writing to these companies that if they sell and install in that period the customer will be entitled to a full refund and will be allowed to keep the system.
So, in effect they would be on stop.
That would learn them...

 

[jupestar]

It's a mess. If it does end up being 21p and people have sold at 43.3p. what do you think will happen?. Nothing that's what. Joe Bloggs will lose out. As well as the reputation of the industry.

Most of these companies will be closing down after the 3rd cause the EPC stuff will frighten them off. Absolute joke.