Average Price for PIRs?

[mackers]

just remember one of the oldest tricks in the book by builders/letting agents etc

"give us a good price because we have loads more work for you" mean while hes having the same conversation with 10 other sparkies!
so don,t go to cheap!

 

[sxsparky]

£130 for up 2 8 circuits then £25 each other circuit.

 

[Spazz]

Thanks everyone

As I have said to a few already due to personal reasons I dont want to go into - i have to keep my income (profit) below £12,000 this year, there is NO option to increase it higher than that!

After 6 months time I can increase my income, if everything goes well, over that amount with no problems at all.


limited company is not an option as I will lose 4 of my regular customers - 3 of which are of the 4 above as they don't deal with limited companies at all.


I could go down the route of not working but I have been advised that working is my best option and will improve my chances of everything going my way in 6 months.


I am thinking that if I price myself lower than normal and regulate income that way, I get my customer database up and every 3 months I increase my labor prices by 25%ish, that way I got the reputation, and when I explain that prices are going up by 25% ish they wont mind to much as they already know my quality of work.


I have taken all into account and priced myself accordingly taking the above situation into account as well - thanks everyone

 

[Des 56]

What price a pir ? hardly worth the bother competing for them

The down and outs used to sell PIRs on the streets of Swansea
Then they found out they could get a better price for selling the Big issue

 

[Spazz]

Its worth competing for them if you have 400 houses to do every year and 75% of them every 6 month!

 

[Spazz]

What price a pir ? hardly worth the bother competing for them

The down and outs used to sell PIRs on the streets of Swansea
Then they found out they could get a better price for selling the Big issue

So are you saying you dont do PIRs then Des??

How much do you do them for if you do? Average Price for 2+2 (10 circuits inc lights)

 

[mackers]

Why won't they deal with ltd company's?

 

[Spazz]

Once bitten - twice Shy is the best way to explain

A limited company can do something not right and dissolve
Same as they can owe loads of money and dissolve - debt is written off.

I know they have issued a few CCJs against Limited companies and each time the limited company has dissolved so they refuse to deal with them anymore

 

[Des 56]

I did them for a council for a couple of years on contract ,2 per day (I wouldn't entertain these 4 and 6 a day that some would say they get done)

I suppose if you live in a holiday/student or city area,then it may be worthwhile doing them,but personally,no the price they get done for by the big boys, sort of makes me think it would be lunacy to rely on that type of work

As for pricing,the best method I have come across was to charge 40 minutes per circuit and 40 minutes per dist board
Multiply this by your own per hour rate and bingo

 

[mackers]

Usually other way round letting agent owe the limited company money for works carried out

 

[Plonker 3]

Its worth competing for them if you have 400 houses to do every year and 75% of them every 6 month!

Only until next year when the contract comes up for renewal and they tell the next contractor that many properties need testing annually and can you do a good price for them.

You lose contract because you prices are rising. So they promise the world to someone else.

 

[Spazz]

Fantastic - great advice Des - this is what I have been looking for to be honest

Gives me something to work to now.


The only reason im looking at them is because I have a contract to maintain 400 agent letted houses and the agent has asked me to give him a price and he will change his policies to state that all properties they manage must have PIRs on them and they must be done every 5 years or change of occupancy.
It covers their backs as well, plus they make a 10% sub ontop of what I charge them.
I charge the Agent £100 for a job, they charge Landlord £110

Works well - I get the work and they get an income off it as well, and I get big contracts like this and recommendations to landlord run properties.

One of the ones Im working for has over 450 properties hes let out in last year, 125 he manages, other 325 are landlord managed and he is passing all my details over to them as well.
I do however see it coming to "sign off my install please" - My answer is Ya sure but it will take several days as I got to rip it all out and re install it myself!
Wont accept anything else - or otherwise go find someone else sorry!

 

[Spazz]

Only until next year when the contract comes up for renewal and they tell the next contractor that many properties need testing annually and can you do a good price for them.

You lose contract because you prices are rising. So they promise the world to someone else.

Let them its down to quality as well!

I am a one man band with low prices so my prices are flexible!


I not no overheads to speak of - I can charge what I want to who I want (of course if the pay it)


I look at a job and think how much do I want to make off it - not how much can I make off these??



Its just a different way of thinking!

 

[Des 56]

Its worth competing for them if you have 400 houses to do every year and 75% of them every 6 month!

My experience is that firstly they make big promises and a lot of it is bull
I may be wrong,but a 6 month change of occupancy, will be a very limited visual examination, just to supplement a full blown eicr, which could be every couple of years

 

[Spazz]

My experience is that firstly they make big promises and a lot of it is bull
I may be wrong,but a 6 month change of occupancy, will be a very limited visual examination, just to supplement a full blown eicr, which could be every couple of years

Exactly Des

limited problems so if my prices suit the job, with them making their bit on top they cant moan!

If they leave after a year - thats a year of free advertising I got - priceless!
1 year experience and I been paid for it - priceless