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does anyone else think these courses should be outlawed?

how people can honestly think you can go from zero knowledge to competent in these short periods of time is beyond me

at least two year training schemes should be mandatory for domestic

perhasp a system where you need three years for commercial and four for industrial :confused:





I personally think these courses devalue my profession, of which I for one am proud!

any thoughts...?
 
lol... sounds about right!!

craftsperson!! huh huh...

i was a Electrical Technician!! not a electrician but a technician!! American driven enterprise with no morals..!!

only good thing about them is i can tell customers to stay away and compare my prices against them!! win every time :D:D:D
 
How wonderfully patronising :p

Just because you've spent years at college and 'in the trade' doesn't make you a skilled and competent electrician either. You might like to think it does, because it taken you years to get there and not six weeks, but it doesn't. You don't know my ability, like I don't know yours. I might be brilliant, I might be crap. You might be brilliant, you might be crap. Same applies to anyone.

I've had a fair amount of experience dealing with so-called skilled tradesmen over the years, both in industrial and domestic situations. Some have been great, others have been shockingly bad. Much more of it is down to the individual and their own abilities rather than the route they've taken to qualify.

Of course qualifications should whittle out the unsuitable, but that's hardly the fault of the training providers is it? Blame C&G or whoever - the exams are painfully easy.

One thing I have noticed is the amount of jealousy and sour grapes directed at people who've taken the short course route, regardless of how good they are. Grow up eh? The good will survive, the poor will flounder. And guess what - some may be better electricians than you! Rather than complaining about it, deal with it. Adapt to the market and give people a reason to use you.

And let's face it, this electrics thingy. It's not exactly rocket science is it? :D

Mind you, I'm a bit upset that at 38 I have no chance of becoming a good electrician. I wonder what plumbing's like :rolleyes::D

Of course, all the above is meant in good humour.


It's not sour grapes, it's frustration, these courses are teaching people the absolute bare minimum required, this shouldn't be the way things are done - it's not about rocket science, it's about having an understanding, fair enough things are generally pretty straight forward but if you get something wrong it can have very dire consequences and it's the severety of this which leads me to believe that people should have to gain the relevant and neccessary experience before going off into the big wide world on their own, of which I as a qualified 'time served' electrician think that at least 2 years of training (for domestic only) would be a pretty good guide

you can't just have people deciding they don't like their jobs one day and thinking i know i'll be a spark, it will only cost ÂŁ1500 and take six weeks - it's a much more serious game than that

and lets face it, how much does learning the most basic techniques in a workshop environment really compare to working in the real world - the work focused most learning is practical hands on learning, practical learning in the workplace

and the last thing,

"Just because you've spent years at college and 'in the trade' doesn't make you a skilled and competent electrician"

I completely agree, but I dont think you can be considered skilled and competent 'without' having spent those years in college and 'in the trade'
 

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