Best type of lighting in stables

[Percyprod]

I have built a stable block consisting of two stables and a store. I have applied to have mains electricity installed, and as part p won't apply Iwill be wiring them myself. My question is do led strip lights have as much shadow as led floods. I have been using 12 volt floods, which are great but do cast shadows. I was thinking of fitting weather proof led strip lights, hoping they would be similar to the florescent strip lights. Any ideas?

 

[suffolkspark]

Bet its all wired in t/e aswell..... and will burn down by all the rats attracted by your LIVESTOCK food!....

 

[Percyprod]

Yes, let's get straight. I'll ignore the insults, bit childish. The building is a stable. It is on it's own in a field. It will have it's own supply. It houses animals. Because of this it does not come under building control regs. Therefore Part p, and yes I do know the difference between them is not necessary as they are not a legal requirement, they are a Standard. Having said that the installation will be to the same standard as required by the regs, and the installation will be properly tested. But I don't need it to be signed off, and I am sure there will be no problem getting it metered. Horses are NOT livestock. And a live horse is a lot more expensive than a dead one.

 

[davesparks]

It will be installed and tested to the latest regs.

Which regulations are you referring to as the latest regs?
The latest version of the IEE wiring regulations is BS7671:2008 'IET wiring regulations, Seventeenth Edition'

So how can you say that you will be installing and testing to the latest regs, when the latest regs are the very standard which you are arguing doesn't apply?

 

[davesparks]

It will be installed and tested to the latest regs.

Which regulations are you referring to as the latest regs?
The latest version of the IEE wiring regulations is BS7671:2008 'IET wiring regulations, Seventeenth Edition'

So how can you say that you will be installing and testing to the latest regs, when the latest regs are the very standard which you are arguing doesn't apply?

 

[telectrix]

by the time he's finished arguing, it'll be the 19th.

 

[Strima]

BS7671 is to be used to ensure you remain compliant with EAWR 1989. If you chose not to install to BS7671 and cannot justify why you haven't done so then you are in breach of EAWR 1989.

A lot of members on here have given you very sound advice and guidance, it's your choice if you chose to accept or ignore this.

You may have been within the trade for 50 years with a DNO but you show a lot of ignorance with regards to the legal requirements of the end user and those that install and maintain their installations.

BCO is correct that this falls outside the scope of Part P however the BCO is incorrect that it falls outside the scope of BS7671.

 

[Andy78]

Horses are NOT livestock. And a live horse is a lot more expensive than a dead one.

Ah I get it now. Times are tight and carrots don't get any cheaper. Make sure you remember to sort out the geegee insurance before you switch on

 

[Percyprod]

Why does everyone assume the installation is not safe? I keep saying it will be to the standards required by the 17th edition, but as it is a standard and not a law it doesn't have to be carried out by a registered electrician. Why does Electricity at Work come into it?

 

[Simlec]

The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (defra) tell you in there "Code of Practice for the Welfare of Horses, Ponies, Donkeys and their Hybrids" that your electrical installation should be installed/maintained and tested to current BS7671.

Part P has nothing to do with what you are doing full stop.

Now stop posting and get on with it and please post us some pictures of your finished installation please (but no pictures of your dead horses as its clear you dont have a clue what is required for the welfare of the animals).

 

[suffolkspark]

out of interest what have you wired it in?

 

[Strima]

out of interest what have you wired it in?

Bare conductors and porcelain insulators. Do you know nothing?

 

[sparksburnout]

out of interest what have you wired it in?

Wellies and a waxed jacket?

 

[Percyprod]

You been spying Strima?. It has been wired to bs 7671. Should be isn't the same as must be.

 

[Devonchris]

The highway code is not a legal document. It is a code. An expected standard that any deviation from could land you in court. BS7671 is the same.

 

[suffolkspark]

whats it been wired in then you hav'nt said yet?