Blanks missing from CU in 2 senarios

[westward10]

I re-energise all the time never a worry.

 

[Nigel]

This thread is just a troll fest now.

 

[Des 56]

Given its been stated a few times
Since when has an electrician had the authority to make a decision to isolate anything

 

[Spoon]

This thread is just a troll fest now.

Mine was in no way meant as a troll and I got a decent answer so I'm happy.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

As we all know the first thing to do when conducting a periodic inspection, is to inspect.
So finding a missing blank or a damaged socket should not involve de-energising any circuits.
So the question is, are you going to de-energise the affected circuit knowing full well that you will not re-energise the circuit before the C1 condition is rectified?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

This thread is just a troll fest now.

Not a Troll fest, just some members showing how ludicrous the practice of coding faults really is.

 

[westward10]

Code 1 and 2 should have a more defined separation of meaning.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

To my mind a code C1 is where there is a danger of injury to persons or livestock or of a fire without there needing to be another fault.
A code C2 is as above, but where it would require another fault before injury or a fire could occur.
An exposed live conductor or conductive part would be a code C1.
A broken CPC or lack of earthing, would be a code C2.

 

[westward10]

It is the definitions which fail to keep them apart.

 

[Spoon]

So the question is, are you going to de-energise the affected circuit knowing full well that you will not re-energise the circuit before the C1 condition is rectified?

The problem I see is that unscrupulous electricians could use this to code C1 for things that are not actually C1, thinking they will get extra money to rectify said fault.

 

[Des 56]

Given its been stated a few times
Since when has an electrician had the authority to make a decision to isolate anything

Anyone got the date yet,perhaps which edition would do

 

[Nigel]

Given its been stated a few times
Since when has an electrician had the authority to make a decision to isolate anything

I think there is a difference between isolating and not re-energising.

 

[Nigel]

Not a Troll fest, just some members showing how ludicrous the practice of coding faults really is.

I agree. Especially those that would not C1 a live part readily accessible.

 

[Nigel]

Code 1 and 2 should have a more defined separation of meaning.

They do. One is present one is potential.

 

[Nigel]

The problem I see is that unscrupulous electricians could use this to code C1 for things that are not actually C1, thinking they will get extra money to rectify said fault.

Would you re-energise a circuit that has a fault in which all conductive parts on that corcuit are live?