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Hi Everyone,

I have been asked to install a cooker and hob built in one (total load 15kw ish), the customer has already 6mm installed from previous cooker so i changed the breaker to 32A b type (I hope this is okay?) and explained that it might trip if he is using the whole oven and all hobs which he is fine with. However we decided to test the breaker out so once installed we turned all hobs on and cooker but the breaker does not trip?? I was confused by this as I expected the breaker to trip, so I measured with my amp clamp and it was showing 47a going through and still not trip?? Can someone please explain or comment if you know why the breaker is not tripping as it's of big concern to me.

Thanks for reading.
 
When it comes to the changes made, the generation making the changes has nothing to do with it. It is all money orientated, the way the world has deteriated, I suppose. It's those in a position to make the changes....generally accountant fed.

Deteriorated...................sorry!
 
HT, if all trainees had your attitude then the industry in the future would look good.

Well said, tel. couldn't agree more.

I must be one of those old fuddies though...a H+S officer asked me to get my log book out today. I told him I haven't got it to hand at present......but I've got my slide rule, if that'll do.:dunce2: :wink_smile:
 
But in this case the person without any tools is claiming to be fully qualified, and presumably expecting to be paid as such.

Obviously I wouldn't expect an apprentice to have anything but their sandwiches with them on their first day, but a fully qualified person should at least have hand tools

You're quite right, had to look back at the original remark, and it was referring to a 'qualified' electrician.




Apprenticeship is the way to go. But for those people that get themselves trained, and pay for their training, will all need that 'big break' for some employer to take them on to work for the very first time.

When I was an apprentice & electrician way back when, there were bodger 'qualified' electricians and electricians claiming to be 'qualified'. I like to think I wasn't one of them! The trunking was carp, you made your own bends, and the bodgers bodged them. Wholesalers never had next week delivery, let alone next day. And you would struggle to take a pride in your work, cos the contracts manager wanted the work done, in less time than they quoted for. But you voted with your feet with a crappy firm.

Having returned to the industry in the last few years, I don't feel its any different, apart from more rules & regulations, more multi tooled accessories you can shake a Yankee Screwdriver at, ohhh .........and less apprentices, no offence Hightower.

On a rather sombre note: “Things aren't what they used to be' is the rallying cry of small minds. When men say things used to be better, they invariably mean they were better for them, because they were young, and had all their hopes intact. The world is bound to look a darker place as you slide into the grave.” (Joe Abercrombie, Best Served Cold)[h=1][/h]
 
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10 posts about a breaker not tripping 23 posts mainly about not having tools and one post starting a spin off series more suited to Jeremy Kyle.

I love this forum:smile5:
 
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KoFi - I too, have just spotted the bit about claiming to be qualified. I stand by what I've said in terms of adult trainees etc, but I'd like to apologise - in retrospect, I think I was a little quick to jump down your throat. As HHD has said, the thread has started to resemble something off Jeremy Kyle, and I've played my part in that. The industry is difficult enough to break in to without making enemies, so hopefully we can draw a line under this and move forward?
 
there's a line under this and it's moving forward. that do? :toilet:

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As a new trainee I'm establishing a fresh opinion of the industry. Regardless of how the industry has changed in the past I think the only way to progress is to support and encourage the new breed for a better future. There are trainee's out there who are keen and motivated to become a quality electrician and push the industry in a positive direction. Id put myself in that boat.

I personally want to feel proud to be electrician once I'm qualified :)
 
10 posts about a breaker not tripping 23 posts mainly about not having tools and one post starting a spin off series more suited to Jeremy Kyle.

I love this forum:smile5:

This wasn't meant as a pop at the OP, I just found it funny.
This question seems like such a simple question and one that should clearly be known and... exactly the same sort of question I would have asked 3 years ago. Keep asking your questions Bensk:smile5:
 
KoFi - I too, have just spotted the bit about claiming to be qualified. I stand by what I've said in terms of adult trainees etc, but I'd like to apologise - in retrospect, I think I was a little quick to jump down your throat. As HHD has said, the thread has started to resemble something off Jeremy Kyle, and I've played my part in that. The industry is difficult enough to break in to without making enemies, so hopefully we can draw a line under this and move forward?

I Salute you!
you have just moved forward in your quest to become a Decent electrician (life skills and good communications all pack and parcel) Yes you did jump down my throat
I respect your apology especially in a open section of a forum
I see you in a different light now DNA test says.................................... you have the pedigree to become a sparks one day LoL
good luck:rockon:
 
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