Care Home? Should i recomend RCD sockets?

[Gavin A]

personally I wouldn't want RCD protection on any sockets in which lifesaving equipment is likely to be plugged in to, certainly not on the entire circuit.

The risks would far outweigh the benefits IMO, assuming full equipotential bonding is in place throughout.

though if it's a dementia home, maybe that's less of an issue.

have they also got those plug socket covers installed?

 

[JimmyDaWolf]

When i say dementia its actually a home for younger adults with physical and neurological difficulties such as Huntington’s Disease, Multiple Sclerosis and Acquired Brain Injury. I could recomend those plug in sockets. There is also a lack of outlets. This causing alot of the rooms to be using 4 way trail leads behind tv's etc. Are there no rcd sockets out there that can be tested via a key?

 

[davesparks]

Don't ever recommend that anyone fits those dangerous socket covers!

 

[1stfix2ndfix]

I Bet you felt a right >@}¥ when it turned out the didn't have dementia

only joking mate I would say rcd sockets are a bit ott but If you can sell them and they are just 1% better then fair play you haven't really done anything wrong. If they ain't needed then that's a bit harsh

 

[Engineer54]

As the patients have a disease that leaves them prone to confusion or distress, should their beds start deflating in the middle of the night because the nurse has plugged in a dodgy kettle i think you could end up with a difficult situation. 20A was a vague figure for some beds and equipment but without knowing more may be completly unsuitable.

That being said I'd still want the sockets covered as i see the patients as at higher risk

But given the costs and not living in an ideal world, think rcbos would be the best route

Why would a nurse plug in a kettle (dodgy or not) into a socket within a patients room in the middle of the night??


If there are insufficient socket outlets within patient rooms that necessitates multi socket adaptors and trailing leads then something is wrong, and needs addressing.... That's what the comments section is for. Maybe the homes insurance company or other authority will pick up on it and insist on remedial work being conducted, ....Maybe!!!!

 

[Fin170]

Why would a nurse plug in a kettle (dodgy or not) into a socket within a patients room in the middle of the night??

I doubt she would plug a kettle into the patients room, but that does not mean that socket circuit is not feeding their tea area or (because as said the kettle was an example) an electric heater in the patients room packs up and trips it.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Don't ever recommend that anyone fits those dangerous socket covers!

Cue for Tony's imminent arrival bringing fire and brimstone ....

 

[trev]

I doubt she would plug a kettle into the patients room, but that does not mean that socket circuit is not feeding their tea area or (because as said the kettle was an example) an electric heater in the patients room packs up and trips it.

GASP! Ye can't say that any more man!

 

[Fin170]

GASP! Ye can't say that any more man!

Damn my insensitive posting, guess its back to the political corectness reeducation centre for me [emoji88]

 

[Engineer54]

I doubt she would plug a kettle into the patients room, but that does not mean that socket circuit is not feeding their tea area or (because as said the kettle was an example) an electric heater in the patients room packs up and trips it.

Yeah, and what if the moon falls out of the sky!!!

 

[dingledong]

We would then have big problems

 

[Fin170]

Yeah, and what if the moon falls out of the sky!!!

Example - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[davesparks]

I doubt she would plug a kettle into the patients room, but that does not mean that socket circuit is not feeding their tea area or (because as said the kettle was an example) an electric heater in the patients room packs up and trips it.

A care home that doesn't keep it's heating system properly maintained or have the portable appliances checked for safety?
Who knows what other failings there are going to be?

Best just wait for the next CQC inspection and see them get shut down!

 

[Silly Sausage]

Was this place originally wired as a Care Home or is it a take over job?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

You don't necessarily have to recommend anything.
Just point out that the current Regulations require RCD protection for socket-outlets intended for use by ordinary persons.
Compliance with the current Regulations can be achieved by either the use of RCD S/Os, or by installing an RCBO, or whatever other options are available.