Ceiling rose removal

[MACCA 2020]

Hi All,
i have removed a ceiling rose, to install an LED light, the issue i have is, i have 2 black wires and 2 red and an earth coming out of the ceiling, the LED has only 3 live, neutral and earth, basically what goes where ?

thanks

 

[westward10]

Do not mix the two blacks up!
The two reds need connecting together but not connected to the light, they are the live loop. The black at the rose connected with the brown is live, the other black is neutral.

 

[MACCA 2020]

Do not mix the two blacks up!
The two reds need connecting together but not connected to the light, they are the live loop. The black at the rose connected with the brown is live, the other black is neutral.

thank you so much

 

[MACCA 2020]

thank you so much

The 2 reds can they go in to a block as one. Thanks

 

[westward10]

The 2 reds can they go in to a block as one. Thanks

Yes they must connect together but do not connect to the light.

 

[brianmoooore]

The black at the rose connected with the brown is live.

The black at the rose connected with the brown should be live. Without testing, I wouldn't place too high a bet on it.

 

[littlespark]

I’m sure the LED light won’t mind being reverse polarity…. It’s possibly got the same colours within it as live and neutral.

Agree with everything above…. But the more understandable terminology would be

Both reds - permanent live. These will still be live even if the room switch is off, so please isolate the circuit at your consumer unit before working.
Thawed should be connected together properly using an insulated connector.
There are many examples of this being done wrongly online where they’ve just been twisted together and taped up.
Do it properly, for safety sake.

Black (should have red tape or sleeving to identify) connected to brown of the pendant flex. - Switched live. This is the one that turns on and off as you flick the room switch.

Black (plain) - Neutral. Connected to blue of the pendant flex.

 

[MACCA 2020]

I’m sure the LED light won’t mind being reverse polarity…. It’s possibly got the same colours within it as live and neutral.

Agree with everything above…. But the more understandable terminology would be

Both reds - permanent live. These will still be live even if the room switch is off, so please isolate the circuit at your consumer unit before working.
Thawed should be connected together properly using an insulated connector.
There are many examples of this being done wrongly online where they’ve just been twisted together and taped up.
Do it properly, for safety sake.

Black (should have red tape or sleeving to identify) connected to brown of the pendant flex. - Switched live. This is the one that turns on and off as you flick the room switch.

Black (plain) - Neutral. Connected to blue of the pendant flex.

Thank you so much

 

[Jock from the north]

Hi All,
i have removed a ceiling rose, to install an LED light, the issue i have is, i have 2 black wires and 2 red and an earth coming out of the ceiling, the LED has only 3 live, neutral and earth, basically what goes where ? View attachment 119047thanks

Least it looks like your at the end of line of loop in method cos you could may have had an extra live ,neutral earth.fun terminating into what led light you have .looks like a strapped existing ceiling with plastic paneling .make sure you get it right first time before adding more panels otherwise your in a world of pain .check all other lights in house to make sure there working properly .also your unlikely to have length on existing wires so use a non maintenance enclosure with suitable wagos etc .if you have length then happy days .hope it goes well .apparently hager do a maintenance free jb that they state does not require further inspection.although you might have a loft above then happy days could be joined there.unless your very lucky can't see you getting length on all those cores