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[cliffed]

Heard thru the grapevine that all DB's to be metal,no more insulated DB's,how sad is that.

 

[R G]

Ha ha totally agree,whatever next,bolster & lump hammer to return

Still got a rawl plug jumper knocking around , oh and some fluted shank auger bits that fit the old brace ...

 

[Plonker 3]

We were told twisted CPCs were to be coded C2 on EICRs, etc. by NIC inspector.

That's really is a potentially dangerous situation isn't it lol.

Been doing some remedial work after EICRs have been carried out by our friends at British Gas and some if their C2s really are appalling.

 

[R G]

We were told twisted CPCs were to be coded C2 on EICRs, etc. by NIC inspector.

Wasn't that long ago that was actually taught ...

Cant see how its non compliant ..

 

[dazza1981]

That's really is a potentially dangerous situation isn't it lol.

Been doing some remedial work after EICRs have been carried out by our friends at British Gas and some if their C2s really are appalling.

Go on dill name a couple ???

 

[Guest77]

We were told twisted CPCs were to be coded C2 on EICRs, etc. by NIC inspector.

It is a code 1 if you are not wearing NICEIC clothing

 

[Resu]

Wasn't that long ago that was actually taught ...

Cant see how its non compliant ..

Untwisting to test or whatever can stress the cable?

 

[Plonker 3]

Go on dill name a couple ???

I would do but can't remember them off the top of my head, and currently working away. Will do it when I get home in a couple of weeks if I remember, although one generic one they pick up on every report is Neutral and CPCs incorrectly sequenced proof in it self they don't even remove the board cover as I have been to some where they are.

 

[Guest77]

Untwisting to test or whatever can stress the cable?

Well don't untwist them then, they are perfectly fine and need not be touched lol

 

[Andy78]

Wasn't that long ago that was actually taught ...

Cant see how its non compliant ..

I don't think it is non compliant in any way, not worthy of any code, certainly bad practice though.

 

[R G]

I don't think it is non compliant in any way, not worthy of any code, certainly bad practice though.

I couldn't give it a code , I suppose if you found a broken earth wire thats come away from a twisted joint it would be a concern and worth pointing out once corrected in case it happens elsewhere ....

 

[Resu]

Well don't untwist them then, they are perfectly fine and need not be touched lol

If only we didn't have to perform continuity and R1+R2 tests!

 

[Guest77]

If only we didn't have to perform continuity and R1+R2 tests!

you do that before you connect up, once thats out of the way it may never need testing again lol

 

[Resu]

you do that before you connect up, once thats out of the way it may never need testing again lol

may never!

 

[Guest77]

I actually never twist cables if they are solid cores, never have, I am also a big believer installations should not be messed about with, every 3-4 years a DB should be opened and all connections tested for tightness and then leave well alone, just because some --- in a suit with NICEIC written on it says something doesn't mean you cannot think for yourself, I appreciate your a trainee and you are learning the modern way, hence my polite reply to you, all I can say is try thinking about potential harm if installations are periodically tested regulary, it is well known MCB terminals can faulter if undone and then redone up several times, the ---- in suits don't know much about installations, it is all school work and theory, they need to feel like they are doing something so they continue to add new laws and rules, some are very wise, some are really stupid.

 

[Resu]

I actually never twist cables if they are solid cores, never have, I am also a big believer installations should not be messed about with, every 3-4 years a DB should be opened and all connections tested for tightness and then leave well alone, just because some --- in a suit with NICEIC written on it says something doesn't mean you cannot think for yourself, I appreciate your a trainee and you are learning the modern way, hence my polite reply to you, all I can say is try thinking about potential harm if installations are periodically tested regulary, it is well known MCB terminals can faulter if undone and then redone up several times, the ---- in suits don't know much about installations, it is all school work and theory, they need to feel like they are doing something so they continue to add new laws and rules, some are very wise, some are really stupid.

Hey I wasn't trying to start anything just stating something I'd heard. I used to twist my CPCs as this is the way my mentor had always done it but after this being mentioned it has made me change my ways.

We have recently started a large contract with our local housing association testing properties (10 yearly and/or change of tenancy) so it is becoming more of an issue for us as in 95% of the ones we've tested so far, the CPCs are twisted!