City and guilds qualifications.

[silver surfer]

I did my part 1 and 2 city and guilds in the 80s and also did the course c, then in recent years the 17th course and then even more recent the 2391.
I never did the AM2.
Not sure what the equivalent pt 1,2 course c equivalents are and whats the NVQ 3 ?

Can anyone enlighten me?

 

[Guest123]

Some info here.....
Electrical Qualifications - Qualifications needed to train to become an electrician in the UK

 

[uksparky]

hi just taken my 17th and passed but the computer crashed during my exam and i lost 5 mins of my exam time also ive recently my 2330 level 2 and 3 im not sure why but i seem to be chaseing the qualification before it changes all the time my next one is 2330-10 but i think this is changing too but dont know when

 

[spamwize2]

don't forget you will probably need 2391 (inspection and test) as thats what all employers and agencies are asking for now!

 

[thekingiam]

Nvq 3 is a qualification that people have to undertake to be recognized by jib if they have not completed a formal apprentiship and cannot prove competance.
The course can be compleeted via the Internet or by working with a scheme provider you have to be employed to complete this course ( alternatives are available ) the course is basicly a on site diary of works you have to complete photograph and sighned off by employer.
After June this year I believe there was a change that included the need to also obtain a am2 qualification as well but I haven't been up to date lately on gossip so maybe someone else could advise?

 

[Risteard]

Nvq 3 is a qualification that people have to undertake to be recognized by jib if they have not completed a formal apprentiship

A formal Apprenticeship includes the NVQ Level 3. As such it is required even with a formal Apprenticeship.

 

[thekingiam]

Uksparky know exactly what you mean by chasing quals post me if u need advice around stuff.

 

[spamwize2]

You can get NVQ3 through Aim if you are employed, and the company is willing for NVQ assessors to come in

 

[thekingiam]

A formal Apprenticeship includes the NVQ Level 3. As such it is required even with a formal Apprenticeship.

he said he done 2360 anyone could do that qualification without an apprentiship, these days you cannot enrol unless you have an apprentiship the Poster asked what is nvq3.

 

[spamwize2]

as you have already done it maybe you could update me! Nvq3 as i understand is the hands on ,in the workplace same as AIM2

 

[i=p/u]

for your nvq 3 it requires a porfolio, four boxes need ticked and the am2 is one of the boxes. we talked about this subject today.

 

[thekingiam]

Cheers I=p/
I haven't completed nvq3 but registered before it had to include am2
will do it when I have time.

 

[thekingiam]

Cheers I=p/
I haven't completed nvq3 but registered before it had to include am2
will do it when I have time.

 

[rob@etc]

Silver surfer, 1st things 1st BOING BOING from a fellow baggie!!
What you did was the old 236 qualification (I did it too and the C course which wasn't easy was it!)
The NVQ 3 is in basic terms a logbook where you record work that you have done on site to meet a set criteria, including 3 wiring systems installed, 3 enclosures, all tests carried out and 3 faults found. This is meant to happen on 3 different occasions but not neccesarily on 3 different sites. The AM2 has changed since the 80's but the basic principle is the same as then install for 8 1/2 hours, safe isolation, inspection and test, fault diagnosis and a 30 question online test.
If you need anymore info please feel free to contact
Rob

 

[chrisn1234]

On a similar note, could anyone advise me please, i am currently working on-site as an electricians mate & looking to get qualified, have on-site experience of approx 1.5 years & also have 17th regs, C & G 2392 & Part P...i was hoping that i could jump straight to the C & G 2330 - Level 3??? would anybody have an idea wether this is actually possible or experience of doing a similar thing? (i also have a Bsc Honours Degree In surveying) & also will do my C & G 2391 next year. Thanks in advance

 

[rob@etc]

I doubt you would be able to jump onto 2330 Level 3 without having the 2330 Level 2 qualification first. The technical certificate is now QCF so I would speak to your local college they will be able to help. Although your Part P, 2392 and 17th will help they won't count towards your technical certificate. Also NVQ 3 and an AM2 exam would be needed for you to get a JIB card graded as an electrician

 

[chrisn1234]

Thanks for the info, appreciated.

 

[TPES]

I'm always confused at why people think the AM2 is required, it is not required, the only people that ask for it is the training providers, no one else.. JIB don't require it neither do city and guilds.

 

[rob@etc]

I'm always confused at why people think the AM2 is required, it is not required, the only people that ask for it is the training providers, no one else.. JIB don't require it neither do city and guilds.

It is required as part of an advanced modern apprenticeship. Also its a far more worthy exam than a 5 day Part P course!!

 

[rugbynick]

If you qualified in the 80's prior to the AM2 and NVQ3 - you don't need to worry about them

 

[SirKit Breaker]

hi just taken my 17th and passed but the computer crashed during my exam and i lost 5 mins of my exam time also ive recently my 2330 level 2 and 3 im not sure why but i seem to be chaseing the qualification before it changes all the time my next one is 2330-10 but i think this is changing too but dont know when

If you lose time in your exam for no fault of your own, then the centre can extend your time, they can also pause it in the event of a fire alarm etc. By the way going for a pooh is not included, you do that in your exam time.

Cheers.........Howard

 

[chrisn1234]

Further to my original post & give some feedback, the college wouldn't enrol me on the 2330 - level 3 (after explaining my qualifications to them...or perhaps lack of them) & so i have now enrolled on the level 2 at Kcollege doing an evening course 1 night a week over 4 terms (just over a year in total)....then onto the level 3 sharpish before the registration date ends. Its an extra year on but i dont mind if it means learning the subject properly.

 

[kenny james]

I doubt you would be able to jump onto 2330 Level 3 without having the 2330 Level 2 qualification first. The technical certificate is now QCF so I would speak to your local college they will be able to help. Although your Part P, 2392 and 17th will help they won't count towards your technical certificate. Also NVQ 3 and an AM2 exam would be needed for you to get a JIB card graded as an electrician

at our local college i completed both my 2330 level 2 and 3, there was a couple of lads who worked at bae and they needed to have the 2330 level 3 only and so they were on our last year 2330 level 3, they said they didnt need the level 2 and the college was fine in enrolling them without the 2330 level 2, that was 3 years ago so maybe things have changed since (again).

 

[diGreez]

Hello Everyone,
I am new in this forum, and I would love to get advice from someone here.
I've started a OLCI course, and now I am a bit confused about all qualifications and how it all works, because I am from Lithuania, I don’t know how it all works in England...
can someone help me please, I have these questions:
1. to become a fully qualified electrician you need just C&G 2357 level 3 to complete or in addition to that you need a 3-4 years of apprenteship?
2. Does anyone in here finished OLCI become a fully qualified electrician, how was that? Did they gave you all support; did they provide you with full onsite experience?
3. After finishing with OLCI training can you find a proper job as an electrician? OLCI salesman said to me that OLCI will help me with job? How they going to help me (get me in to interviews or just give me advise how to do CV and so on)?

 

[Alana Fox]

Hi diGreez,

Alana here from OLCI Construction Training.

I can see that you have some questions about the course you have recently started. I would be more than happy to discuss this further with you.

Please give us a call on 0800 316 8100. Alternatively you can email me on [email protected] with a phone number and suitable time to call you back.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes,

Alana Fox.