Commercial PIR on a LARGE site.

[Festerfly]

Little update this time..

Spent a couple of hours in the site offices scouring the for the previous EIC's and PIR's assumed done on site over the past 10-15 years.. we found 1xEIC for a small building extension comprising 4 circuits.. and that was dated 2006.. Time for a PIR methinks! Have been asked to provide a quote for the PIR based on the approx number of circuits and also a rough schedule of testing etc.. gonna be a long one.. need to get back to it... (buries nose in paperwork and slumps head on keyboard at shear size of it all!! lol)

 

[mogga]

when working out circuits remember to take into account from main incomer out each sub DB as a circuit as for pricing Firm I worked with expected each man to do 25 crcts a day no matter what if the guys did more than 25 they got £3 for every circuit I dont know what the client was charged

also in your quote add in a section that any code ones found(ie exposed live parts) are repaired at time and cost of parts immedietly

 

[Festerfly]

Thanks for the heads up.

I did already mention the code 1 situation and was met with an approving nod.

 

[accordfire]

Just a thought here..........

If, by the time you've quoted all this, you don't kick off until Jan - you may want to look at the Draft amendment, and make sure you're up to speed on "Condition Reports".... I think it's mostly a layout thing, and not an overhead in time, but worth thinking about.....

 

[Festerfly]

Just a thought here..........

If, by the time you've quoted all this, you don't kick off until Jan - you may want to look at the Draft amendment, and make sure you're up to speed on "Condition Reports".... I think it's mostly a layout thing, and not an overhead in time, but worth thinking about.....

good point... i think in all seriousness it would be a new year start anyway by the time all the paperwork has been sorted and suchlike. Must keep my eye put for the draft as soon as it becomes available.

Thanks for that.

 

[IQ Electrical]

good point... i think in all seriousness it would be a new year start anyway by the time all the paperwork has been sorted and suchlike. Must keep my eye put for the draft as soon as it becomes available.

Thanks for that.

It's published in July but not in force until 01/01/12

 

[accordfire]

It's published in July but not in force until 01/01/12

This link here is to the IET DPC Section, including downloads.

 

[malcolmsanford]

But be quick they take it off line by Jan 1st

 

[Festerfly]

Cheers guys.

 

[robswainelect]

I price per Dist Board.
Remember you are reporting on the condition of the electrical system, as it is. If you cant find circuits put it on the recommendation sheet, Unable to identify circuit.
I don't over price either, for the testing, as normally there is a lot of remedial works to be completed after the testing!

 

[IQ Electrical]

I price per Dist Board.
Remember you are reporting on the condition of the electrical system, as it is. If you cant find circuits put it on the recommendation sheet, Unable to identify circuit.
I don't over price either, for the testing, as normally there is a lot of remedial works to be completed after the testing!

How can you possibly do that, given the rather large variation in distribution board sizes?

The only logical way is a per-circuit price.

 

[robswainelect]

You should know the sizes before you quote!

 

[IQ Electrical]

You should know the sizes before you quote!

But that's my point, at the end of the day, you are still pricing per circuit!

 

[robswainelect]

Yes I suppose you are!

 

[Festerfly]

***latest update***

Back at the customers site to discuss some other works and to clarify a few details on this PIR also and the customer posed this question:-


Bearing in mind that there is NO existing paperwork in the form of a PIR or Valid EIC for the site electrical circuits in any way shape or form i am right in saying that they will need to have ALL circuits fully tested and reported not a 'basic' overall test just checking say 1 in 3 circuits and a quick visual inspection etc. My view was that with no prior test reports they should have a full and thorough PIR to give them a 'Baseline' for everything on site.

They have been given varying advice in the past concerning this hence the question. Wanted to confirm my thoughts on this.

One more step closer!

Cheers