Consumer Unit Changed by Unregistered Electrician

If its only a board change and no extra work, then the work that has been carried out can be fully inspected. Test the installation out, and if you are happy with the board change, issue an EIC and sign the job off as your own.. jobs a good one!!, the customer will appreciate it and will call you back when they want work doing in their new house.

With regards to Elecsa, most sparks in my area are now Elecsa members so theres no problems here! People just need educating. I've got Elecsa involved on a PIR problem (I've put a post on here somewhere) and if you let them kn ow you are having trouble with a certain customer, they are more than happy to contact them in person and explain.
my thoughts too. if its only a board change evrything is visible so can all be checked and i wouldnt have a problem issuing an EIC. if it makes you feel better take the cu back down and start again but the result will ultimately be the same :p
 
hi, new contributor.

It might be an idea to provide the job for a spark going for registration. that way he can have a job done that provides him with the higher level registration.......but what the hell do I know?

the world has gone crazzzzzy ;)
 
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hi, new contributor.

It might be an idea to provide the job for a spark going for registration. that way he can have a job done that provides him with the higher level registration.......but what the hell do I know?

the world has gone crazzzzzy ;)


yeah sounds like a brilliant plan! already complete job! new spark no idea what he is doing, removes replaces and gets assessed and passes!! MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO!!!

newly qualified spark then moves on and does a similar job and this time has to think about it and comes accross some probs! loads of skill gaps and he bodges it due to customer wanting power back on, fills in test sheet incorrectly and 3 days later calls round to house to give cert to customer only to find scorced windows and burnt roof!!!!! no customer in sight!!

still a good IDEA???
 
yeah you say get building control etc, but it defeats the whole concept o doing a cas job. if you leave a paper trail to your name the taxman will be after you. catch 22
 
Hi
A potential client has had the CU changed by an unregistered electrician.
The property is now to be sold and the buyer has requested a "self cert".

I am offering to do a Periodic on the property.

Will this be enough - or is the buyer likely to insist that Building Regs are informed also about the CU change??

Cheers

CH

Hi
You do your PIR, once done, you tell the customer what is needed to be corrected before you can issue a test certificate Part P. Only then can they rent or sell the property.

I have caught 5 companies which state they are nic registered but they are not, reported to NIC and in turn they have replied telling me that they have reported the companies to trading standards.
 
Hello All,
If the comsumer unit is fitted in a special location (e.g. the kitchen etc) then the council have to be informed. If it is not in a special location then it maybe non notifable to the council (depending on the area where the client lives). The only I can recommend is that if the client wants a certification offer it to them. I am doing my city and guilds 2330 level electechnical certification for electricians.
 
I think you need to do a little bit more study newuser as your advice on a old post is totally wrong !


Part P the buildng regs tells you what is or is not notifiable & a CU exchange is !
 
is a big mess with building control and stuff, they wont keep records of every possible knocked wall, moved bathroom or state of consumer unit in every property.
they dont give a damn on their own, and not gonna bother unless someone will call them in to complain. they are here to make money selling rolls of red tapes :)
huge amount of dodgy cowboy work is going unnoticed by building control,
customers dont bother (it works), getting discovered by a proper spark after couple of years.

you can do EICR on it, based on whats up there now, not much more you can do.
if your client wants to call and inform them on his own, his business, his money, his trouble.
 
Hello All,
If the comsumer unit is fitted in a special location (e.g. the kitchen etc) then the council have to be informed. If it is not in a special location then it maybe non notifable to the council (depending on the area where the client lives). The only I can recommend is that if the client wants a certification offer it to them. I am doing my city and guilds 2330 level electechnical certification for electricians.

??? Think you're a bit off the mark there
 
is a big mess with building control and stuff, they wont keep records of every possible knocked wall, moved bathroom or state of consumer unit in every property.
they dont give a damn on their own, and not gonna bother unless someone will call them in to complain. they are here to make money selling rolls of red tapes :)
huge amount of dodgy cowboy work is going unnoticed by building control,
customers dont bother (it works), getting discovered by a proper spark after couple of years.

you can do EICR on it, based on whats up there now, not much more you can do.
if your client wants to call and inform them on his own, his business, his money, his trouble.

Only if the client asks for a certificate, any work that is done must be tested and results put down on paper it comes down to Competent person, you can use the green sheets from the nic but you dont have to be registered.
If they were using the nic logo the nic will act.
 
Hello All,
If the comsumer unit is fitted in a special location (e.g. the kitchen etc) then the council have to be informed. If it is not in a special location then it maybe non notifable to the council (depending on the area where the client lives). The only I can recommend is that if the client wants a certification offer it to them. I am doing my city and guilds 2330 level electechnical certification for electricians.

Only if the client asks for a certificate, any work that is done must be tested and results put down on paper it comes down to Competent person, you can use the green sheets from the nic but you don't have to registered.
If they were using the nic logo the nic will act.

Still needs notifying whether registered with a scheme or not
 

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