Cooker Connection

[uksparks]

Hi,

Ok, let me know what your thoughts are as to MCB size, cable size of cable from cooker to wall, nothing more, just let me know, then ill tell you what I have just found.

The cooker uses 10.4kW to 11.6kW, its free standing, 4 rings and double oven, new oven, well bought it off someone, but still has all labels on it etc, looks like its been used once. So lets just say on christmas day when you have stuff warning in the top oven, turkey in the bottom, and all 4 rings on boiling potatoes etc, the point is, it "could" draw 11.6kW.

1. What size MCB
2. What size cable for circuit
3. Size of cable from cooker to outlet.

 

[telectrix]

and don't forget the additional 10mm to bond the casing.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Uksparks!!...not seen you in a long time...last time I seen you was...just trying to think...oh yes that's it you was busking outside Harrods with your drum!!...

............ naked.

 

[Risteard]

I think my dilemma with this is that it "could" draw 50A.

But the point is that it couldn't.

 

[Jay Sparks]

as damian stated. all the elements are on stats, so all drawing full power simultaneously is about as rare as you busking outside harrods with your drum.

Is that with a capital A????lol

If this is over any ones head, watch OFH, when Del is in Charlotes wine bar & bistro!!

Jay

 

[Jay Sparks]

Is the grill on its own??? Or is it like most other doubles, in with one of the ovens??
If the later then the grill can not be on at the same time as the oven its in with!!

 

[telectrix]

hah. that's the one where he fell through the bar flap... classic.

 

[Jay Sparks]

hah. that's the one where he fell through the bar flap... classic.

Best comedy moment ever!!!
I have the limited edition box set and still watch it on Gold...lol

 

[telectrix]

my fav . is the one where they go to USA and DJ plays the mafia don as well as himself. that and the boat trip across the north sea.

 

[Jay Sparks]

my fav . is the one where they go to USA and DJ plays the mafia don as well as himself. that and the boat trip across the north sea.

I dont like the "Miami twice" episode...but the "Hull and back" is good. Thats the one where they are diamond smugglers. I prefer the older ones myself. Just after grandad dies and Albert turns up. Proper 80/90s classic sit com.

 

[GMES]

Best comedy moment ever!!!
I have the limited edition box set and still watch it on Gold...lol

Same here our lass bought it me for xmas, best present she's ever got me. And I also watch it everytime it's on tv, that part does baffle our lass.

 

[uksparks]

But the point is that it couldn't.

What are you basing that on? As the oven clearly states that the max power draw is 11.6kW, so surely it CAN draw that if everything is on full? Personally I think connecting an appliance that has the potential to pull more than the circuit is designed for is wrong, ok i know that it possibly won't but its not the point.

 

[davesparks]

Good lord above! Since electric machines were born into this world people have been developing our current system for diversity calculations.
Why is it necessary to question them now? How many cookers have the collected members of this site installed based on these diversity calculations?

You might as well start working with max current and max voltage instead of the RMS average if you are going to design cooker circuits based on max connected load instead of the load after diversity!

 

[davesparks]

What are you basing that on? As the oven clearly states that the max power draw is 11.6kW, so surely it CAN draw that if everything is on full? Personally I think connecting an appliance that has the potential to pull more than the circuit is designed for is wrong, ok i know that it possibly won't but its not the point.

Do you actually understand how individual elements are powered and controlled?

If you are concerned set up a data logger and record the current draw from a cooker with everything switched at full at the same instant.

And then consider how many meals require every single element to be switched on at once?
This Christmas dinner you are always going on about, does the turkey go in the oven at the same time as the vegetables go on to boil? (They're going to be soup by the time the turkey is done)

 

[rich.250]

What are you basing that on? As the oven clearly states that the max power draw is 11.6kW, so surely it CAN draw that if everything is on full? Personally I think connecting an appliance that has the potential to pull more than the circuit is designed for is wrong, ok i know that it possibly won't but its not the point.

In that case near enough every install is wrong.
Most installs could draw more than the supply if you turned everything on at once... Lol

 

[davesparks]

Forget the installs, the whole national grid must have fallen over years ago!