Could This Be A Fused Neutral?

[SparkyMcsparkface]

Hi, came across this today, double width cutout, never seen it before. Not sure if it could be fused on the neutral or whether I am worrying with no need. Any advice appreciated. (Haven't pulled the cutout obviously, even though it isn't sealed - I have a feeling it might be too stiff to pull out anyway, maybe....)

 

[davesparks]

What colour.

Black and blue

 

[westward10]

Painful then was it.

 

[davesparks]

Painful then was it.

It was terribly painful having two ladies giving me their undivided attention and all the tea I could drink

 

[davesparks]

And this was the result

 

[NDG Elecs]

Agreed that it falls outside the fixed wiring installation that I am testing, but the Schedule Of Inspections requires me to record an outcome of inspection on the condition of the service head.

I have argued about this before on this forum. I usually put N/V for those items. Out of my jurisdiction and not my responsibility to record in my view. I will contact DNO if any issues found no problem. Some of the other posts on this thread make interesting points I think.

Edit: not your typical blue rinse then Dave!

 

[Jamchiv01]

If we find an issue with the Service head or meter, we give it the correct Outcome C1/2/3 depending on severity.

Before we fully issue the report we alert the customer and tell them we can either submit the report with the c1/2/3 on it or you can contact the DNO, have them rectify the issue and call us back to verify it's been rectified and we will issue the report with it as a tick.

 

[davesparks]

If we find an issue with the Service head or meter, we give it the correct Outcome C1/2/3 depending on severity.

Before we fully issue the certificate we alert the customer and tell them we can either submit the cert with the c1/2/3 on it or you can contact the DNO, have them rectify the issue and call us back to verify it's been rectified and we will issue the cert with it as a tick.

its a report, not a certificate. Although it sounds like a petty thing it makes a huge difference

 

[Jamchiv01]

its a report, not a certificate. Although it sounds like a petty thing it makes a huge difference

That's what I meant sorry, I edited the post

 

[westward10]

I have argued about this before on this forum. I usually put N/V for those items. Out of my jurisdiction and not my responsibility to record in my view. I will contact DNO if any issues found no problem. Some of the other posts on this thread make interesting points I think.

Edit: not your typical blue rinse then Dave!

It is a requirement of an EICR to comment on it, if you feel it is outside the remit, which it is not then you should discuss it with the client that you will record it as a Limitation although why you would do this is not clear.

 

[NDG Elecs]

It is a requirement of an EICR to comment on it, if you feel it is outside the remit, which it is not then you should discuss it with the client that you will record it as a Limitation although why you would do this is not clear.

My view is that the bods at the IET have spoke with various DNO reps and have subsequently passed these inspection items on to the humble spark. If I am not deemed competent to pull a main fuse how am I competent to comment accurately on the DNOs equipment. If there is an issue I will always contact the DNO without a problem. But the installation I inspect and record details about starts at the outgoing tails of the meter.

 

[westward10]

It is asking you to view on its condition not to pull any fuse carrier.

 

[NDG Elecs]

You are missing my point Westward. DNOs equipment is outside of the remit of 7671. As I see it the DNOs are trying to basically come to a point in time when every one has smart meters and home visits are no longer necessary whereby defects may have been picked up on previously. Hence the inclusion of these items in the schedule. I will 'lim' it in future just for you! After lengthy discussions with the client....... obviously....

 

[westward10]

Don't know what the issue is I really don't .

 

[davesparks]

You are missing my point Westward. DNOs equipment is outside of the remit of 7671. As I see it the DNOs are trying to basically come to a point in time when every one has smart meters and home visits are no longer necessary whereby defects may have been picked up on previously. Hence the inclusion of these items in the schedule. I will 'lim' it in future just for you! After lengthy discussions with the client....... obviously....

Interestingly the DNO's equipment installed within a customers proerty is not entirely outside the remit of 7671, however it is something that we e are not allowed to interfere with.
However we can look at it, and that is all that is required to inspect it.

 

[NDG Elecs]

Don't know what the issue is I really don't .

Haha! Last time I had this debate on here I got exactly the same response from some others.
As I say I will be the first to ring the DNO if any problems are found. However, I am not putting my name and signature to a document that includes things which I am not deemed to be competent to assess. That's my take on it..!