Customer completed own repairs after my EICR

[Marcus Vaughan]

Not a question. Just feeling annoyed and venting.

I carried out an EICR on a small domestic property, cleared a few small faults free of charge but gave an Unsatisfactory to Main Earthing and Equipotential Bonding Conductor Sizes.

Gave a low quote to put right.

He now phoned me up to say he has completed the repairs himself.

Annoying - as I will have to go over there are inspect and retest Ze and bond continuity anyway.

He must have opened up the consumer unit as well.

Grrrr!

Any thoughts welcome but I suspect I have to just suck it up (buttercup).

 

[MDJ]

If it's not a new task why would you return to the property? Clearly the BS7671 Competent Person who has completed the remedial work listed in your Report has tested and Certified it for the Owner. (Sarcasm Alert).

Too true, I would tell him to shove it and would not go back, well said.

 

[Spoon]

Too true, I would tell him to shove it and would not go back, well said.

You can just see the love ooooozing out of you....

 

[Andy78]

I'd go back on the condition that the EICR was paid for again as it now needs to be repeated.
Cheeky twerps some of these landlords.

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

Hi

Just out of interest, what size were the earthing and bonding cables, and what type of supply was it?

Main earthing was a bit of mess, tiny little fine stranded - aluminium I think? I had it down as copper equivalent equal to 1mm then someone has added an extra 2 of 2.5mm from consumer unit to the MET. I gave it a total of 6mm but wasn’t happy with the way it was split into 3 anyway, or the connections choc blocked in mid-air etc....

Equipotential bonding was also 2.5mm.

So it looks like someone had a roll of 2.5mm - perhaps a landlord looking to rent out a property?!

Come to think of it - I suspect the Consumer Unit is DIY as well....

 

[Octopus]

Come to think of it - I suspect the Consumer Unit is DIY as well....

What makes you think that?

 

[Pete999]

Not a question. Just feeling annoyed and venting.

I carried out an EICR on a small domestic property, cleared a few small faults free of charge but gave an Unsatisfactory to Main Earthing and Equipotential Bonding Conductor Sizes.

Gave a low quote to put right.

He now phoned me up to say he has completed the repairs himself.

Annoying - as I will have to go over there are inspect and retest Ze and bond continuity anyway.

He must have opened up the consumer unit as well.

Grrrr!

Any thoughts welcome but I suspect I have to just suck it up (buttercup).

You have completed the EICR, noted all the fail points, end of as far as you are concerned Marcus.

 

[davesparks]

I'd go back on the condition that the EICR was paid for again as it now needs to be repeated.
Cheeky twerps some of these landlords.

The EICR doesn’t need to be repeated, the remedial work needs to be certified.

 

[Andy78]

The EICR doesn’t need to be repeated, the remedial work needs to be certified.

Was a bit of a tongue in cheek comment really.
Seeing as I wouldn't certificate any work done by a landlord, if they were asking for a satisfactory report in light of said remedial work I would quote for a new EICR in these circumstances, and hope that put them off ringing me back.

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

What makes you think that?

Upstairs ring final on a 16 amp MCB
Downstairs ring final on a 20 amp MCB .
All sockets on one RCD, all lights on the other. Just things like that.
I’m in all a bit of weird set up.

 

[Octopus]

Upstairs ring final on a 16 amp MCB
Downstairs ring final on a 20 amp MCB .
All sockets on one RCD, all lights on the other. Just things like that.
I’m in all a bit of weird set up.

Seen that recently ......... and signed off with a cert etc.........

Its like all the downstairs on 1 RCD and upstairs on the other RCD - not ideal, border line on compliance

 

[Gasinspect]

The clue is in the wording -EICR is just what it says it is, a report on the condition of an electrical installation. End of.

Any work done to remedy is either an EIC or a MWC.

It is of course cheaper for them in the long run to get you to do remedial as you test (unless really dire) and then they can get a "clean" EICR. I had a letting agent who trusted me over 25 years and we worked well on that basis. Sadly few and far between.
Look at it like an MOT. you get the report, some garages will change a bulb but that is about it.

 

[buzzlightyear]

any EICR reports I do ,I charge once of the test cert .
and that's with out the faults on the test certs unsatisfactory .
I would tell the customer any work carried out by any body that I would go through it with a fine comb. and charge for new test certs

 

[Pete999]

any EICR reports I do ,I charge once of the test cert .
and that's with out the faults on the test certs unsatisfactory .
I would tell the customer any work carried out by any body that I would go through it with a fine comb. and charge for new test certs

Buzz areyou saying that you charge for the EICR and not tell the customer of any faults? can't quite see how you could manage that, and then go back and see it and what repairs have been done, and charge for a new EICR. Sorry if I have things --- about face but that's what your post implys to me, of course I could be tatally way off track, perhaps you could explain, as you post is a little disjointen.

 

[Dave OCD]

Buzz areyou saying that you charge for the EICR and not tell the customer of any faults? can't quite see how you could manage that, and then go back and see it and what repairs have been done, and charge for a new EICR. Sorry if I have things --- about face but that's what your post implys to me, of course I could be tatally way off track, perhaps you could explain, as you post is a little disjointen.

Very tactful Pete, I can't understand a word of it either.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Very tactful Pete, I can't understand a word of it either

i will rephrase it.
any EICR THAT I DO AND THAT WHICH ARE UNSATISFACORY.
.AND IF A CUSTOMER SAYS THEY WILL GET SOME ONE TO DO THE REMEDAL WORK .THATS FINE BY ME .BUT WILL GO OVER IT WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB.AND CHARGE FOR A NEW TEST CERT .
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