Cut-throat Competition: The Race To The Bottom

[Toneyz]

You will probably find that these young electricians, and I use the word loosely, have done a couple of short courses, gained the 17th update and the worthless part P spent who knows how may 100s of pounds, joined some scam or whatever and call themselves "Qualified Electricians" laughable when you Analise it, a couple of 1 day courses, instant Sparks, or as one notable member calls them "boil in the bag Sparkies" I certainly glad I'm out of the mix now.

Makes you wonder how they get through the assessment for these screams ? .

 

[westward10]

Makes you wonder how they get through the assessment for these screams ? .

Few weeks back I was told by an assessor the assessment content is based on the candidates abilities.

 

[Anthony S]

Gold card ????
Are you doing electrical work at Willy wonkers?

You never heard of the JIB ?

 

[Toneyz]

Few weeks back I was told by an assessor the assessment content is based on the candidates abilities.

It would be good to hear from any D.I. on the forum of their initial/ annual assessment eg what hoops do you have to go through, what questions have they asked when assessing.

 

[Wilko]

Few weeks back I was told by an assessor the assessment content is based on the candidates abilities.

What the .... ?

 

[Toneyz]

Makes you wonder how they get through the assessment for these screams ? .

Don't think anyone cares anymore

 

[Paul228]

Yes...another scheme you must join to get on site.
I have CSCS card and a safe pass to get me on site.
Why do I need to join yet another "club"
Apols for the sarcastic tone but I'm smirking inwardly.
I was in Dublin last week, hoping to start on a contract I'd been pricing for months. Got their and all ready to go, card, paperwork etc in place, then on the 11th hour was told I had to achieve an Irish safe site pass in order to go on site. So £200 later and having sat a one day cause on basic site safety, learnineverg how to suck an egg etc I passed.
So can I now start, no..
Had to join the union... but had to join it for three different trades ( it's like the UK was back in the 70s).
So back on point, yes I know what a gold card is....it's to get into Willy wonkers chocolate factory and nothing to do with competency or ability in any specific trade.

 

[Anthony S]

Makes no odds to me with your chocolate factory theory, it aided me for the past 30 odd years when JIB cards are needed to get on certain jobs and in years to come (won't affect me) its will the be norm for a lot of companies and employers only taking on JIB registered. That won't affect the self employed domestic people, but they will be over subscribed with semi skilled and cheap labour and trapped in the race to the bottom.

 

[drzsta]

The trade is a joke, I wonder how many of these Electrical Trainee are taking home the £35k they were promised when they lashed out 3k on their "quals".

 

[The Ghost]

I was approached on a job by a spanish guy, young. He told me he is an electrician and would I help him. His English was very limited. Anyhoo I agreed to attend a re-wire with him. He just said to customer I will re-wire customer says ok. I said you need to check out the installation first and work out what needs doing. Anyway the long and the short of it is he charges £100 for a CU change. I can't compete with that. No certificate, no testing and no BC notice, just change the box get the cash bye bye. Pffff!

 

[Paul228]

I was approached on a job by a spanish guy, young. He told me he is an electrician and would I help him. His English was very limited. Anyhoo I agreed to attend a re-wire with him. He just said to customer I will re-wire customer says ok. I said you need to check out the installation first and work out what needs doing. Anyway the long and the short of it is he charges £100 for a CU change. I can't compete with that. No certificate, no testing and no BC notice, just change the box get the cash bye bye. Pffff!

I've come across this dodgy Spanish sparky before, was he called Juan Kerr.

 

[The Ghost]

Juan Kerr

Nay, this is Bristol. But for all I know it might be he gave me a name but...
EDIT: Damn just got it

 

[The Ghost]

The thing is I can't see someone who changes career being able to come into something like the last job I did. Anyone on site had better "know their onions" or they simply would not be able to last a day on site. The site supervisor and principal contractor are all over you ensuring compliance and good technique and so on. You can't just wing it with a five week course...could you...nahhh!

 

[Paul228]

I think you missed my subtle joke.
Juan Kerr...
( pronounced wan Ker)

 

[The Ghost]

missed my subtle joke

I think you missed my subtle edit