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[Jaytbaez]

If your good at your job should never be out of work.
Sub contract labour is there to help out. Hear today gone tom, move onto the next job.

Exactly, since when has being the best guaranteed business success?
You may be the best Installer in the world, but if your order book is quiet and someone rings you and has done their sales stuff and got an order/job and offered it to you on a plate for a fair days rate, why not take it, do it, move on, and continue to drum up your own business.

 

[jason121]

do you have your own PV fitted

 

[SolarCity]

lol, ok, you think I'm a parasite, that's your opinion, attacking me won't change the current state of play will it.

I'm not attacking you, I am simply suggesting that your business plan strikes me as being parasitic. It takes yet seems to offer zero in return.

 

[Gavin A]

lol, ok, you think I'm a parasite, that's your opinion, attacking me won't change the current state of play will it.

it might stop you making it worse though with your ill thought out scheme.

if you want an example of why you'd make things worse, just look at what happened to the microwind industry once B&Q started flogging the windsave tat direct to people in their stores, resulting in loads of really badly performing installations on totally inappropriate roofs that no reputable company would have previously touched with a barge pole after doing proper assessments of the potential and advising the end user accordingly.

B&Q thought they knew better, and pretty much destroyed the credibility of the entire industry in the space of 2-3 years as a result.

This is what happens when you take the expertise and experience out of the equation, so please go and have a word with yourself before you make a bad situation even worse.

 

[Gavin A]

I'm not attacking you.

why not?

 

[Jaytbaez]

Funny, you do have a sense of humour.

You know, you sound like just the type of person that would look at installing solar themselves, love it!

I'm just looking at the industry and asking a few questions opinions, seeing if there is an appetite for adaption - and if there is a desire, then why not look into offering a solution for that, for those who want to adapt and do not want to sit around hoping their order books start filling up again.

 

[SolarCity]

why not?

His idea is awful. Attacking that seems enough.

 

[jason121]

all my jobs coming in are referrals. Dont employ salesman, and my yacht needs cleaning how ya fixed for £90 a day

 

[Jaytbaez]

why not?

Go for it, if you think attacking me will help make your business busier or pay next months bills, then do it.
I am merely suggesting another form, another way, for some installers to earn extra income.
You guys who don't need it, wouldn't do it, that's fair enough, sales is a numbers game anyway.

 

[SolarCity]

You know, you sound like just the type of person that would look at installing solar themselves, love it!

Well, seeing as I AM a solar installer then it doesn't take a great leap of faith to assume that I would install my own, does it?

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sales is a numbers game anyway.

That, in a nutshell, is the problem.

 

[Jaytbaez]

all my jobs coming in are referrals. Dont employ salesman, and my yacht needs cleaning how ya fixed for £90 a day

Excellent good news, I'm not knocking anyone for having a good business and doing well, merely putting an idea out there to help out those who aren't doing so well at this time.

And £90 to clean a yacht is more than fair.

 

[Jaytbaez]

Well, seeing as I AM a solar installer then it doesn't take a great leap of faith to assume that I would install my own, does it?

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That, in a nutshell, is the problem.

Yes it is, and some installers are not getting the numbers they once were, so why not have an option for those guys, not everyone needs it or would want to do it that way, but some might/would.

 

[SolarCity]

I think this thread has run its course. Anyone interested can still send you a PM.

 

[Jaytbaez]

His idea is awful. Attacking that seems enough.

Awful for????
The industry as a whole?
The industry as it currently stand?
You personally?

Are agencies in every other trade/profession/service all bad then? all awful?

 

[SolarCity]

Awful for????
The industry as a whole?
The industry as it currently stand?
You personally?

Are agencies in every other trade/profession/service all bad then? all awful?

Awful for customer, installer and wholesaler.

I am glad that MCS seem to agree with me.