DECC launch FIT review

[TedM]

The consultation document talks about the process around this a little. They will use the MCS database to monitor registrations in real time against the cap. Maybe a website with a count-down to zero availability!

In this situation is is going to be a complete lottery as to what tariff anyone gets. For example, if 200 applications arrive at a supplier's on a Monday morning who decides what order they get processed in? If you are the front of that queue you get the current tariff, if at the end then you are unlucky and get the next quarter's, lower tariff.

I don't think DECC have thought through the detailed implications of this aspect at all.

It will be interesting to see what MCS come up for new quotation guidelines!

 

[TedM]

Here's a graph of the default degression of PV tariffs over the period Jan 2016 to Jan 2019.

You can see that all the bands drop at the same rate apart from the 0-10kW band, which drops a little faster.

 

[whinmoor]

One positive side-effect will be that the lead-generators such as Quotatis will struggle.

And, Gavin's nasty neighbours might be forced to shut up shop.

And, there will be repair work from the rushed and bodged installs from people who don't care and those using up random bits of kit which don't really fit together properly.

 

[SolarCity]

Isn't everyone else pretty much expecting installs to grind to a halt? Only those people doing new eco-homes or where it has been specified by planning will be having them installed I'd have thought?

 

[Worcester]

Decc haven't thought through anything...

Just got off the phone with one of the significant influencers in the renewables market place..
Decc is currently 1600 people, they have been told by the SoS that is to go back down to 1000 as fast as possible, - 1000 is what is was when the LibDem / Tories took over 5-6 years ago.

Green Deal = Shambles
FiT = Shambles
Nondom RHI = Shambles
Dom RHI = Shambles

I expect them ALL to be cut dramatically - we won't know about RHI until late November

So 2016 sees from SoS :
No support for SolarPV
No Support for Biomass
ASHP they are panicking that Joe Bloggs will install it V badly as they did 5 years ago - DECC have NO actual SPF performance data on installed ASHP despite over 17,000 gone in under the RHI
GSHP comofrtable with SPF, concerned over quality.

 

[Worcester]

Isn't everyone else pretty much expecting installs to grind to a halt? Only those people doing new eco-homes or where it has been specified by planning will be having them installed I'd have thought?

Specified by planning is no longer allowed

That power dissappeared from Local Govt under the devloution Act back in March this year, to boost housing devleopment a single unified standard (basically Code 4) was imposed.

We have 4 'signature property' / eco homes on the go at the moment, where we are contracted to provide everything to the property regarding Ventilation, Heating and Generation, we see that as the way forward for us.

 

[whinmoor]

Isn't everyone else pretty much expecting installs to grind to a halt? Only those people doing new eco-homes or where it has been specified by planning will be having them installed I'd have thought?

Yes, totally agree. January and February will be pretty dead which will drive distributors out of business as well as installers. It's very difficult to see why Joe Public would want an install at 1.63p in Jan/Feb when he could get it at 12.47p in Nov/Dec.

Then there won't be sufficient quantities and competition to continue to drive down prices of hardware.

 

[whinmoor]

Nice to see some support for the industry. But, do they have any influence?

Shadow energy secretary accuses Conservative party of undermining solar | Solar Power Portal

 

[Gavin A]

we've just had our first work confirm for jan 2016, a new build commercial project that we're doing the panels for in a couple of weeks will be ready for inverters and commissioning in Jan.

That's largely how I hope to get through that period, so we'll be hitting up all the electrical contractors for all the tenders we've placed in the last few years to see what's in the offing, as that market is not influenced by the FIT schemes at all.

It needs telehandler licenses, big insurance, loads of risk assessment, method statements etc etc but that's what we've been gearing up for over the last 3 years and why.

We'll also be moving into commercial LED lighting in quite a big way, I already have fingers in the pie of a nationwide distributor / agent for high quality LED lights (looking for regional installation partnerships btw )

I still think there will be niche markets where it works as retrofit, but it's likely to be a few months before that starts to gradually pick up again, and will take significant marketing to overcome the 'industry has been killed' media stuff.

 

[SolarCity]

Yes, totally agree. January and February will be pretty dead which will drive distributors out of business as well as installers. It's very difficult to see why Joe Public would want an install at 1.63p in Jan/Feb when he could get it at 12.47p in Nov/Dec.

Then there won't be sufficient quantities and competition to continue to drive down prices of hardware.

At these rates, will anyone ever want a 1.63p system? For them to become viable we need a huge spike in energy prices.

 

[whinmoor]

At these rates, will anyone ever want a 1.63p system? For them to become viable we need a huge spike in energy prices.

It may make sense if there's going to be very high on-site self-consumption. Of course, such properties would probably have already installed PV and will be very few and far between. Hardly sufficient to sustain a whole industry.

 

[whinmoor]

Does anyone live in Amber Rudd's constituency in Hastings & Rye? Maybe they could go to her weekly surgery and discuss this matter?

Sibert - Do you have a customer in this area who might be able to go along and give her a bit of grief?

 

[SibertSolar]

No, but I live nearby....

 

[whinmoor]

The postcode of Hastings Town Hall is TN34 1TL.

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Look at the first one on the list - you couldn't make it up !!

Seriously, it would be nice if one of her own constituents could go along and explain about the effects on their business.

 

[whinmoor]

Climate change: 2015 will be the hottest year on record 'by a mile', experts say - Climate Change - Environment - The Independent

Better burn some more fossil fuels then and slash usage of clean, green renewables