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Got my 18th Ed certificate late last year, now doing 2391. Obviously Amendment 2 has come out since then, and I see these courses available to update your 18th accordingly.
But at what point would this be needed? I assume it's not a legal requirement. If I got my 2391 and NVQ in the next year and applied for a gold card, would my 18th cert be classed as not current unless I update it? Thanks.
 

Sorry I was misled on this one, I don't think they do exam only having re-read it.

Or


Are but two examples.

Before booking, do a free on-line test to see if just the test is suitable for you.
Many thanks
 
But it covers much more than that, you said your work is safe, so it must be compliant with the regulations.

If you do think your work is acceptable, just do a search on-line for 18th edition test questions.

You should find places where you can take a simulated exam on line for free, you should be able to skip through in 10-15mins (although you would be more careful and take your time in the real exam).

Now, I don't think you would pass as you by your own admission don't have the latest regs, but even without the latest you should be achieving 60%+

Perhaps that will give you a perspective on where you are/need to be.

We just have your posts and words to judge, so that isn't a real representation on your actual level.
Hi Julie, further to our conversation of yesterday I did find an online test for the 18th edition update...as I understand it you are required to pass just 35 question out of the 60 in the test to pass....I gave it ago ...I think I would of passed....so I guess that an online exam is the best way forward. Many thanks for your help..most helpful....its a shame that some of the others on this site haven't displayed the same humility and helpfulness.
 
Hi Julie, further to our conversation of yesterday I did find an online test for the 18th edition update...as I understand it you are required to pass just 35 question out of the 60 in the test to pass....I gave it ago ...I think I would of passed....so I guess that an online exam is the best way forward. Many thanks for your help..most helpful....its a shame that some of the others on this site haven't displayed the same humility and helpfulness.
If you do the on-line mock test, it will actually tell you if you would have passed, you can also view your answers to see which you got right and wrong (plus the correct answers).

It's on the third link I posted is it 18thexam or something.
 
Ah the
If you do the on-line mock test, it will actually tell you if you would have passed, you can also view your answers to see which you got right and wrong (plus the correct answers).

It's on the third link I posted is it 18thexam or something.
one I did required you to pay to give you the results....but did offer access to 1000 questions for about £20 pounds.
 
Ah the

one I did required you to pay to give you the results....but did offer access to 1000 questions for about £20 pounds.

The link above gives a full on line free test with results, not done it myself but...

 
The link above gives a full on line free test with results, not done it myself but...

OK, just done it, it's a fair to easy representation, I just skipped through it, no book to hand as I just took it out of curiosity.

You should get a result such as this:
[ElectriciansForums.net] Do I need to update my 18th edition for Amendment 2 ?


You can then go through each question and check your answer vs the correct one.
 
OK, just done it, it's a fair to easy representation, I just skipped through it, no book to hand as I just took it out of curiosity.

You should get a result such as this:View attachment 103757

You can then go through each question and check your answer vs the correct one.
Will try that tonight when I get home ...thanks for the information.
 
Competency is outlined in the wiring regulations.

Competent electrician may be defined in several ways having minor differences, but essentially if you read the entry qualifications to be a member of the Competent persons scheme for the type of electrical work you do, that is typical of the standard used throughout the industry.

Essentially
Level 3 in installation (your C&G will do).
(Including testing)
Current regulations.
Current building regulations where applicable.
Demonstrate to an inspector that your work meets the current standards.

Etc.

Many councils also define this for acceptance of notifiable work from non-scheme members and for inspection work, for example:


submitted in connection with:
• Housing licensing applications under Parts 2 & 3 of ‘The Housing Act 2004’ (Mandatory
HMO, Additional HMO and Selective licensing)
or in compliance with;
• Regulation 3 (1) of ‘The Electrical Safety Standards in the Private Rented sector (England)
Regulations 2020’ (SI 312:2020)
and
• Regulation 7 (3) of ‘The Licensing and Management of Houses in Multiple Occupation
(Additional Provisions) (England) Regulations 2007’ (SI 1903:2007) – as applicable to
‘Section 257 HMOs’,
has / have been produced by a person both qualified and specifically competent to undertake
inspection and testing of fixed electrical installations.
In line with current government guidance, the Local Housing Authority (LHA) may do this by:
1. checking if the inspector is a member of a relevant competent person scheme, via the
‘Registered Competent Person Electrical’ website:
and / or
2. “requiring the inspector to sign a checklist certifying their competence, including their
experience, whether they have adequate insurance and hold a qualification covering
the current version of the wiring regulations and in the periodic inspection, testing and
certification of electrical installations”.

It doesn't actually mean they are competent, though.
I wonder what the outcome would be if a scheme registered electrician made the same mistake in wiring a house as the self-taught one.
Should it be like HGV drivers getting a harsher sentence because of them being a professional driver and should know better.
It's the homeowner whose going to end up with the brunt of the load as it's their responsibility.
 
Been reading the posts, lol many of us dont agree with part p legislation, but its with us and we will continue to have our pants pulled down.
@Brian Taylor having core qualifications is not enough now certainly not in the domestic sector, certain jobs/tasks require notification to building control so joining a scheme cps (competent persons scheme).
Basically you need to be accredited and this is how its achieved by joining these schemes. ££££s
 
Okay I have trimmed this thread down a bit. Unless you have helpful advice regarding the 18th Ed exam as per @Julie. can you refrain from posting.

Surely the non-notification of jobs is quite a major issue??

Can we all just carry on as we wish in the cheapest way possible then?

Feel free to delete this post, perhaps it doesn't matter.
 

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