Dry lining boxes substitute

[Adam W]

It,s a damn rough way of doing it,may as well have no box at all,definitely a non compliance in my opinion,as all connection a should be made in a non flammable enclosure.

Non-compliance with what?

 

[overskilled]

MDJ - What about the deeper dryliners? Appleby do some 47mm ones IIRC...

 

[Guest111]

Non-compliance with what?

as stated,all joints and this includes terminations at switches,sockets etc should be made within a non flammable enclosure,by chopping the back out of the box you are defeating this.in that case you may as well do away with the box altogether and just screw the accessory to the wall.

 

[telectrix]

alternative method....

1. cut hole in board. hammer is quickest.

2. squirt a can of expandy play foam into cavity.

3. splodge in knock-out box.

4. return next day to 2nd fix.

 

[Geordie Spark]

MK at one time did metal clips which converted their metal zic boxes for plasterboard mounting.

Boydy

Useless bloody things always fell off down the cavity before you got everything tightened up

 

[Geordie Spark]

I can cut a dry line box in, in nder 1 min including putting the box in with wires, this using a draper box cutting template without the spring. Nice and easy, don't see why you would want to do it faster.

I have one of those and threw the spring away. I have a solid rod as it's replacement if I ever need it, which is unlikely since my working days are over.

 

[Adam W]

as stated,all joints and this includes terminations at switches,sockets etc should be made within a non flammable enclosure,by chopping the back out of the box you are defeating this.in that case you may as well do away with the box altogether and just screw the accessory to the wall.

I was really after a relevant regulation or set of regulations (bearing in mind BS7671 and building regulations don't apply because boats aren't buildings).
I didn't say it was my idea either, I said I didn't think it was ideal. I think it was someone's 'last resort' to accommodate bespoke accessories.

 

[dave992]

Yah go with a good old noggin, stronger and finish is better than fast fix box especially in kitchens

 

[MDJ]

MDJ - What about the deeper dryliners? Appleby do some 47mm ones IIRC...

Only ever used those for cooker switches to be honest so I cannot comment, I suppose it would be fine, you may have a good point.

 

[uksparks]

I have one of those and threw the spring away. I have a solid rod as it's replacement if I ever need it, which is unlikely since my working days are over.

I took the spring off it the min it arrived, cant see the benefit, if doing lots of sockets a new build or rewire, I set the laser up then just use the template to draw it on the wall, it's handy with a mini level in.

 

[uksparks]

Can someone explain the noggin method to me.

My iew is, cut the hole, if the wall is far away, then it's a dry liner, if not its a Galv box on the wall.

 

[Dcf]

these days dry lining boxes for me.use the box template as well and never had one pull out.
last decent sized job i did i fitted dwangs( thats noggins to you men of england) and flush steel boxes as it was miles from home and didn't want loads of cables getting lost.
hmm what i got was some buried and not brought through, others with a wee hole for the cables to come through and that was it.
is it too much effort for these james hunts to cut out a box these days??

 

[overskilled]

Last one I did, I left the tails extra long (so it would completely unmissable as to the purpose of them)
was shocked...they even drew level lines....which were level...nearly fainted with the shock....

 

[shanky887614]

these days dry lining boxes for me.use the box template as well and never had one pull out.
last decent sized job i did i fitted dwangs( thats noggins to you men of england) and flush steel boxes as it was miles from home and didn't want loads of cables getting lost.
hmm what i got was some buried and not brought through, others with a wee hole for the cables to come through and that was it.
is it too much effort for these james hunts to cut out a box these days??

Noggins are wood, dwangs are metal.

Dwangs are quicker than brick if you have an impactor

 

[Thefailsafe2012]

Fast fix boxes have their place. I do prefer KO boxes though, specially if you've got flat plate accessories. And if there's a chippy on site they can usually be persuaded to do the noggins for you