EICR code thoughts please?

[Deleted member 9648]

In order to code it has to not comply with 7671.....while no doubt a reg concerning ID of circuit conductors could be found,if a sparks was electrocuted disconnecting an energised conductor in a CU I have absolutely no doubt that an inquest would find him breaking H&S rules by not isolating first

 

[KAS1]

C3 for me it's only potentially dangerous if working on the board live, as it's already been identified by yourself and like someone has said mark up the board for future sparks stating that the "neutrals are not connected correctly, de-energise board before removing cover" Having said that if it was a new job I'd sack the spark for doing a rough job.

 

[tom79bmth]

I agree with kas1 code 3 all day long it not dangerous to general public or people working their only someone working on the electrics and well they should be competent so if they got a belt then they aint competent.

 

[telectrix]

name me 1 spark that has never had a shock of some sort in their working life.

 

[craig1000]

Its a tough one but I'm sticking with Tel, may call me Scam up tomorrow and offer both viewpoints and see what they say!

 

[tom79bmth]

name me 1 spark that has never had a shock of some sort in their working life.

Well probably not many, but that's usually because they haven't followed H&S - safe isolation so who's fault is that !!

 

[capitolltd]

Well the electrical safety council state in their guidance that this departure doesn't even warrant a code, but remember this guide is based on domestic all insulated installations. Now depending on the environment and location and other facts, it might get a C3 at most, as I initially stated.

 

[telectrix]

Well probably not many, but that's usually because they haven't followed H&S - safe isolation so who's fault is that !!

the fault is the real world. can any spark honestly say he's never done a small job on a live installation/DB, swapped out a light switch with the juice on?

 

[Guest55]

wirepuller bang on the money regards h&s.
pulling wrong neutral out is only a prob if you working on energised DB , which you shouldnt be doing in the first place , but.......
we all do it within our own comfort zone and accept that risk , so you cant throw around C2's just because you've goofed up.

missing bonding is only a C2 and that affects all users of a property , whereas mixed up neutrals only sting a spark , who should know better
it a C3 all day long ;-)

 

[tom79bmth]

the fault is the real world. can any spark honestly say he's never done a small job on a live installation/DB, swapped out a light switch with the juice on?

Never lol

 

[telectrix]

liar. LOL.

 

[MDJ]

It is a toughy, I still can't find an argument at all which I could explain to the customer saying it's a C2, I can imagine their reply if I tried to charge them for this, this is a 50/50 and there will be if's and butts all day long over this, however still can't find an argument saying it's a C2 to the customer, so after deep thought and reading this thread 100 times, well a C3 for me I think, or C2 lol, although the Job is very rough to say the least.

 

[tom79bmth]

well only 5 days a week sometimes 6 if i work on Saturday

 

[Guest55]

i think theres many on here who would do well to study more closely the ESC coding guide so as to better gauge defect severity as some of the inspection coding opinions being expressed on recent threads are pure fantasy to be honest.

 

[muzza1]

Another interesting read, ta.