EICR code thoughts please?

[craig1000]

I have gone over the esc guide before posting biff, and wanting to be correct but still unsure after going over the guide a few times posted!
I have said gona go C2 a few posts back, am now swaying back to C3 after further posts from others! ;-/

 

[telectrix]

where the C 2½ when you need it?

 

[MDJ]

i think theres many on here who would do well to study more closely the ESC coding guide so as to better gauge defect severity as some of the inspection coding opinions being expressed on recent threads are pure fantasy to be honest.

you mean like my disgust at showers and fans in bathrooms with no local isolation Biff?

 

[Silly Sausage]

C3 at most, no argument!
Can't fail an installation because of some Neutrals being out of sequence.

 

[telectrix]

seems like i'm out voted. still would not be happy giving the job a satisfactory though.

 

[Guest55]

you mean like my disgust at showers and fans in bathrooms with no local isolation Biff?

i was only pulling your leg in that thread mike ;-)
and my previous comment was aimed at the forum in general.

I have gone over the esc guide before posting biff, and wanting to be correct but still unsure after going over the guide a few times posted!
I have said gona go C2 a few posts back, am now swaying back to C3 after further posts from others! ;-/

not often are periodics black & white but its your inspection , your call

 

[sparkymalarky]

Sorry Telectrix but I give these a C3 all day everyday! I can see both arguments but I C3 it for the same reasons already mentioned! No point in repeating posts again

 

[Deleted member 9648]

wirepuller bang on the money regards h&s.
pulling wrong neutral out is only a prob if you working on energised DB , which you shouldnt be doing in the first place , but.......
we all do it within our own comfort zone and accept that risk , so you cant throw around C2's just because you've goofed up.

missing bonding is only a C2 and that affects all users of a property , whereas mixed up neutrals only sting a spark , who should know better
it a C3 all day long ;-)

Bleedin' eck.....approval from Biff!:happybday:

 

[telectrix]

he must have been on the happy juice tonight.:aureola:

 

[Guest55]

he must have been on the happy juice tonight.:aureola:

i dont booze on a skool nite lol.

 

[D Skelton]

Shouldn't be working live so no danger from removing the wrong neutral. C3

 

[Rampantchilli]

well i had my NICEIC QS assesment last week and this was EXACTLY one of the questions. i started to say C3, but then thought about it, its a no code as there is no immediate danger or potential danger under fault conditions and if working safely the board would be isolated so still no risk, and the EICR is actually for the user not the next electrician to come along, which explains why no ID sleeving on switch wires is also NOT codeable

 

[Deleted member 9648]

well i had my NICEIC QS assesment last week and this was EXACTLY one of the questions. i started to say C3, but then thought about it, its a no code as there is no immediate danger or potential danger under fault conditions and if working safely the board would be isolated so still no risk, and the EICR is actually for the user not the next electrician to come along, which explains why no ID sleeving on switch wires is also NOT codeable

Dont know where your assessor is at TBH.....anything which doesnt comply with 7671 should be coded,and a live conductor not properly identified doesnt comply with 7671 and should be coded.

 

[craig1000]

Cheers for the input Rampantchilli!

On reflection it makes sense, but I would have thought a C3 as for it not complying. BUT thats maybe is just me being ----! Surely no sleeving on switch wires is a code. 'along the lines of 'all conductors correctly identified at their terminations' not the exact wording!

Winds me up how some people fail to just do something which is as easy to do correct as opposed to do wrong or rough as it would appear as it seems it is not wrong to put CPCs/Neutrals in wrong terminals! ;-(

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Dont know where your assessor is at TBH.....anything which doesnt comply with 7671 should be coded,and a live conductor not properly identified doesnt comply with 7671 and should be coded.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ what he says lol^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Englishman]

name me 1 spark that has never had a shock of some sort in their working life.

I would assume that any who regularly work with live equipment often get buzzes.