EICR On small industrial unit

[uksparks]

Hi,

A friend of mine owns a small unit, i have the papers from when it was last tested 10 years ago and also 15 years ago, but a lot of its been pulled out since then.

Ill be honest, I do not generally do periodics on this type of building and would like a bit of guidance.

I know how to test the circuits etc, its not that, thats the issue, its more with the BS number and what other peoples thoughts are for the setup where the board is really.

Take a look at the photos and see what you think, its a courier business and they wash vans out the front and take extensions out, nothing is RCD protected, generally the condition looks ok having walked round it yesterday.

 

[davesparks]

why does it need to comply if 10ka rating is satisfactory why do you need 15ka mcbs

What on earth are you gibbering on about this time?

 

[shanky887614]

BS EN 60898 'low voltage circuit breakers for use in household and similar applications'

BS EN 60947-2 'low voltage circuit breakers for use in industrial and similar installations'

So it all depends on how you define 'similar installations' , I think small commercial offices/shops would be, but what else?

in this paticular case bs60898 breakers are adequite because of the enviroment conditions and measured test results (its located in a school)

 

[Andy78]

BS EN 60898 'low voltage circuit breakers for use in household and similar applications'

BS EN 60947-2 'low voltage circuit breakers for use in industrial and similar installations'

So it all depends on how you define 'similar installations' , I think small commercial offices/shops would be, but what else?

Cheers for that Dave. First time I have heard 60898 referred to as "household" , that's what confused me.
I found this download for some informative bedtime reading ...

http://www.beama.org.uk/download.cfm/docid/6BCA1329-8A17-4C89-B86A629F18D74BB8

 

[shanky887614]

Cheers for that Dave. First time I have heard 60898 referred to as "household" , that's what confused me.
I found this download for some informative bedtime reading ...

http://www.beama.org.uk/download.cfm/docid/6BCA1329-8A17-4C89-B86A629F18D74BB8

here is some info from schneider

blog.schneider-electric.com/energy-...6/iec-60898-1-iec-60947-2-tale-two-standards/

 

[Andy78]

Cheers shanky

 

[shanky887614]

Cheers shanky

bassically 60947-2 is a higher spec version with stricter requirements there is a table and explaination between the two above.

a 60947 can be used in place of a 60898 but a 60898 cant always be used instead of a 60947

 

[ipf]

Cheers for that Dave. First time I have heard 60898 referred to as "household" , that's what confused me.
I found this download for some informative bedtime reading ...

http://www.beama.org.uk/download.cfm/docid/6BCA1329-8A17-4C89-B86A629F18D74BB8

Because it's the bs for all our MCB's. But look at the price difference between the two specifications.

 

[davesparks]

in this paticular case bs60898 breakers are adequite because of the enviroment conditions and measured test results (its located in a school)

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You're lucky, all the school/commercial boiler rooms I get to work in around here are grotty horrible places, damp and stinking of oil. You'd assume the higher pollution rating to be specified for them.

 

[shanky887614]

You're lucky, all the school/commercial boiler rooms I get to work in around here are grotty horrible places, damp and stinking of oil. You'd assume the higher pollution rating to be specified for them.

nah the worst plant room ive worked in was city hospital in birmingham.

national grid officess plantrooms are defiantly the cleanest ive been to.

the breakers are usuallu dual standard but usually the older plant we work on is bs88 fuses

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Great thread chaps, lots of really juicy meaty stuff in here to rip off the bones.

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