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what a farce ........... nobody can agree ............ but thing is for sure, and based on personal experience......... handing an unsatisfactory EICR and a couple of MWC's to a letting agent doesn't always guarantee they will "accept" that the installation is now "satisfactory"

To be fair it is only one member that seems to not understand how it should work.
 
Only for that item of work. Not the whole installation.
Judging from your comments regarding clients wanting a report to state ‘Satisfactory”, I can only assume you rarely conduct periodic Inspection and Testing.
In my experience which dates back to before the IEE/IET introduced the model forms, the majority of installations which require the client to obtain a report, would not willingly accept a report which states ‘Unsatisfactory’.

Personally, before completing and issuing a report, I will inform the client of the defects I have found, and offer to rectify those defects, in order to issue a ‘Satisfactory’ report.

Others will issue the report, offer to rectify the defects and also offer to issue another ‘Satisfactory’ report once the work is completed.

Others still will attend a property to Inspect, rectify any faults, not issue any certification for their work, make no notification and then issue a Visual.
 
Judging from your comments regarding clients wanting a report to state ‘Satisfactory”, I can only assume you rarely conduct periodic Inspection and Testing.
In my experience which dates back to before the IEE/IET introduced the model forms, the majority of installations which require the client to obtain a report, would not willingly accept a report which states ‘Unsatisfactory’.

Personally, before completing and issuing a report, I will inform the client of the defects I have found, and offer to rectify those defects, in order to issue a ‘Satisfactory’ report.

Others will issue the report, offer to rectify the defects and also offer to issue another ‘Satisfactory’ report once the work is completed.

Others still will attend a property to Inspect, rectify any faults, not issue any certification for their work, make no notification and then issue a Visual.

We do more than enough. Regardless of how many we do my ability to understand and read basic guidance is not linked with how many I carry out.

Experience means nothing if during that time you were doing it incorrectly.
 
If you do more than enough, how is it you are unaware of the widespread demand for ‘Satisfactory’ reports?
I’ve spoken to Insurance companies on a number of occasions regarding this issue, not always successfully.
Client has had an ‘Unsatisfactory’ report, had the work done to rectify the defects, the Insurance company wants a new ‘Satisfactory’ report.
 
If you do more than enough, how is it you are unaware of the widespread demand for ‘Satisfactory’ reports?
I’ve spoken to Insurance companies on a number of occasions regarding this issue, not always successfully.
Client has had an ‘Unsatisfactory’ report, had the work done to rectify the defects, the Insurance company wants a new ‘Satisfactory’ report.

Maybe you do not educate your clients as well as I do. I do about £50k worth of EICRs a year and never have the issue you describe.
 
The last EICR I did was an unsatisfactory based on inadequate sized main earth and Equipotential bonding. A simple fix as it was all in a cellar.

Problem is that the customer decided to DIY the upgrade himself - and I never went back. So he (maybe) has ‘satisfactory’ Installation but an unsatisfactory report. He was the land lord of this rented property as well - so I wonder how he would get on with the insurers?

It’s all a bit of a minefield?
 
The last EICR I did was an unsatisfactory based on inadequate sized main earth and Equipotential bonding. A simple fix as it was all in a cellar.

Problem is that the customer decided to DIY the upgrade himself - and I never went back. So he (maybe) has ‘satisfactory’ Installation but an unsatisfactory report. He was the land lord of this rented property as well - so I wonder how he would get on with the insurers?

It’s all a bit of a minefield?

It is really not a minefield. It is very very simple.

The insurer would probably not accept anyone not a member of a scheme carrying out the works.
 
The last EICR I did was an unsatisfactory based on inadequate sized main earth and Equipotential bonding. A simple fix as it was all in a cellar.

Problem is that the customer decided to DIY the upgrade himself - and I never went back. So he (maybe) has ‘satisfactory’ Installation but an unsatisfactory report. He was the land lord of this rented property as well - so I wonder how he would get on with the insurers?

It’s all a bit of a minefield?

Not your problem .............
 
If a report is unsatisfactory there will be a list of observations , If those observations have been rectified there will be paper work to show that ,
We produce a spread sheet listing them so its easy to cross referance .we have done doing this for years and all our customers find it easy to understand for example
Item ................Observation .............. Action carried out ............Results
1 . Broken socket in reception ...........Replaced socket...........0.45

Just a ruff example we put all relevant test reading depending on what work carried out.
 
Only for that item of work. Not the whole installation.
How about doing the appropriate certificate for the remedial work plus an EICR with detailed limitations referenced to a copy of the unsatisfactory report?
 

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