ELECSA assessment. Domestic+Periodic

[robsparx]

Hi, I am looking to register with ELECSA as a domestic installer soon, as I'm out of a job, and a few people want to send some private work my way. The domestic assessment sounds straight foward. Am i ok to complete a job eg. a rewire, then get it assessed and sign it off once my registration is complete?

And I am booked in to do my 2391 at the end of May. The ELECSA website states "It is agreed and generally accepted that an above average knowledge of electrical installations is required to carry out Periodic Inspections, usually gained through years of experience on top of formal qualifications (eg. C&G 2391)"

Well I have only recently come through my apprenticeship so would they see me as having enough experience to be carrying out periodics? I have had experience assisting with periodics on domestic properties, and hotels and schools whilst an apprentice, and then carrying out the remedials, so I feel i should know enough about what to look for in domestic properties

Sorry if thats a bit long winded

 

[electricAl]

"want to do the job once and get it right first time......."

Spot on, mate

& i`m sure you will.

Good to hearthe ELCB`s being taken down - as you said, now obselete & non-compliant.

Good luck with it & get back with any further queries

 

[rob1967]

"want to do the job once and get it right first time......."

Spot on, mate

& i`m sure you will.

Good to hearthe ELCB`s being taken down - as you said, now obselete & non-compliant.

Good luck with it & get back with any further queries

Is that a job for the supplyer or can I change the ELCB???? I know you'll all be Screaming at me saying don't touch it but just nedd to be sure

 

[electricAl]

"Is that a job for the supplyer or can I change the ELCB?"

It all depends on means of isolation Rob.

Look at the incoming to that main switch.

If you can isolate upstream then by all means rip it out, you`re entitled to work anywhere on consumer`s side of meter, tails & all - ELCBs are no exception.

However, practically, to do this it`s likely the cut-out will need pulling - which is owned by the DNO. You`re not entitled to work on their kit - though loads of sparks do.

If you do opt to get the DNO in, enquire as to the cost of fitting an isolator at the same time. What they`ll charge & how long you`ll have to wait will vary depending on individual company. Pretty sure there`s a sticky on the site somewhere with contact details for various suppliers.

If the supplier aint listed then ask on here as someone may know...

 

[vitoboy]

before being self employed i wrote tens and tens of pirs
no 2391 .....no training.....just here is a tester....thats the on button
my boss just signed them as the qualifed super
and how could he see the property as i had in order to say it was ok?
anyone know when the last person was taken to court for issuing a pir while not regisered but holding installation quals and experence.
id love to know.....

 

[telectrix]

if your boss signed the PIRs, then it's his responsibility, and possible court appearance, not your's

 

[IQ Electrical]

And that's where the QS system fails.

You don't get taken to court for issuing a PIR without being registered but you could end up having to defend/justify the PIR in front of a judge and expert witnesses.

This is where the term 'competency' takes on great importance and qualifications/experience can be used to support your competency status.

That's why Professional Indemnity is a must if you intend to carry out PIR's.