EV Charging info

[Wilko]

Hi - I’m thinking it’s £5 to £10 for a charge.

Just based on 14p per kW, a 40kW battery, with 80% overall charging efficiency (my guesstimate of losses in cables, charger battery and the battery itself) giving £7... it’d be interesting to hear what the real costs turned out to be .

 

[Zdb]

Informative thread.

Slightly off topic but someone posted about an EV charging unit a few weeks ago that didnt require the use of an earth rod.

Does anyone know the make and model or have datasheet for it?

Thanks

 

[Devonchris]

The 'WCS' part of the code denotes that the charger will come complete with GPRS metering equipment and a 3 year guarantee. These two conditions have been imposed by OLEV, and if you don't comply, you don't get paid

This is so the government knows where they are and when you use them, so they can tax you when the oil revenue drys up. So some customers could be speculating on savings later. But they'll get you some other way in the end.

 

[JK-Electrical]

This is so the government knows where they are and when you use them, so they can tax you when the oil revenue drys up. So some customers could be speculating on savings later. But they'll get you some other way in the end.

That was precisely my conclusion too.

Up until 1st July, the installation of GPRS smart-metering and the provision of a three-year warranty on the EV charger(s) was applicable only to chargers installed under the Workplace Charging Scheme. But from that date the same conditions now apply to chargers installed under the Home Charging Scheme. So in effect, there is very little financial gain for the customer. The lion's share of the grant money that the customer receives will be eaten-up by the additional costs of having to install an EV charger on a three-year warranty alongside a GPRS smart meter. Indeed, the £500 grant doesn't even cover the cost of the charger itself. A con if you ask me.

 

[DT1991]

Informative thread.

Slightly off topic but someone posted about an EV charging unit a few weeks ago that didnt require the use of an earth rod.

Does anyone know the make and model or have datasheet for it?

Thanks

Solo 3 for Business | Pod Point

The Pod Point Solo Charger is a single-socket charging station that can provide up to 22kW of power for your customers, visitors or employees.

pod-point.com

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

Informative thread.

Slightly off topic but someone posted about an EV charging unit a few weeks ago that didnt require the use of an earth rod.

Does anyone know the make and model or have datasheet for it?

Thanks

It was myself. The new podpoint unit needs no rod so is good for PME.

As asked above, I get my leads by being on the olev lists, zapmap and from manufacturers. Checkatrade and ratedpeople are also good sources.

Not sure why somebody waited 3 months for payment from olev for a commercial install. These are a lot simpler admin wise and usually i get paid from olev within 60 days.

Evbox's elvi charger is approved for both schemes and you get 20% off if an aproved installer. It has had the smart back office software from day 1 so hasnt gone up like the rolec units have.

 

[hasel5]

I can confirm the pod point model is easy to fit but you do need to follow the fitting instructions to a tee

 

[Deleted account]

As much as you can fit ev without the qual. I wouldn’t advise it. There is more to it than just cable calcs and sticking live neutral and earth in.

Also I would wait to fit them until a potential voltage difference device has been invented making them much safer.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

As already covered you need to be in a scheme if installing home chargers as its notifiable.
For the olev schemes, you need to do acourse, city and guilds or a one day niceic thing. Then get manufacturer approval for each make via training days etc which is usually free. Some make you get the brands tester. Some makes will approve you for domestic chargers only if you arent NICEIC AC or equivalent.
Then apply to olev. Homecharge applications can be long as the paperwork is long. Workplace is much much easier.
You can fit one outside of olev schemes but as above you wont get the subsidy.
I have fitted 22 in the last year, between domestic and workplace ones. Its picking up and got more to quote for.

Thanks for that informative reply Gavin.

I'm guessing you have done the course then and also the training days for each manufacturer?

Also, how many of those 22 installations were domestic?

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

Thanks for that informative reply Gavin.

I'm guessing you have done the course then and also the training days for each manufacturer?

Also, how many of those 22 installations were domestic?

It splits at roughly 65% Domestic 35% workplace installs.
The same chargers for each (rolec or evbox) usually, I install the EVBox chargers - Elvi which is brilliant and well priced with your trade/installer discount, its on par with a rolec smart one now as they had the smart stuff from day 1 where as rolec have increased prices.
otherwise if customer wants the bare minimum then it was always the olev approved rolec 32 amp units.
If you want more info let me know and when i get 5 minutes will send you some stuff over via pdf for you to have a read

 

[sythai]

If you want more info let me know and when i get 5 minutes will send you some stuff over via pdf for you to have a read

That would be really helpful Gavin..... any chance I could have a copy also please ;-)

 

[Pete999]

That would be really helpful Gavin..... any chance I could have a copy also please ;-)

Me as well please Gav, looks interesting, not that I'll be installing any , but just to keep up with things, if you don't mind that is.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

i will put some bits together over the next few days and then send to you all. Bare with me I am getting in late at moment as I am mid way through a rewire. so hot dirty and long days are routing for me.

 

[brains-lans]

Hi All,

Seen the .gov consultation thats about making these mandatory in new builds? Could be a good earner for those that do new-builds if they can do the EV points too?

Electric vehicle charge points in residential and non-residential buildings

Proposals to alter existing residential and non-residential buildings regulations to include electric vehicle infrastructure requirements.

www.gov.uk

Cheers

Brian

 

[mattg4321]

i will put some bits together over the next few days and then send to you all. Bare with me I am getting in late at moment as I am mid way through a rewire. so hot dirty and long days are routing for me.

Would also like a copy while you're at it. No rush though, when you have time. Cheers