UK Failing Apprentice - What to do

[poggy1951]

What to do with a failing apprentice........ bin him but what are the legal problems that may arise.

 

[Mike Johnson]

I certainly was not and I think you will find it was only you, NBD and Oscar that were answering in the wrong thread.

 

[westward10]

Not everyone but I was guilty so let's keep it to the original question if he ever comes back.

 

[7029 dave]

What to do with a failing apprentice........ bin him but what are the legal problems that may arise.

OP are you a one-man band set up have asked previously.
Any contracts drawn up? lots of questions

 

[Midwest]

It’s different to do, but it’s often said you should treat people how you would expect them to treat you. Or how you would expect them to treat your siblings, like you would treats theirs.

The trouble is we humans tend to treat others as just an object, as opposed to a person, but it is a two way thing.

The OP (and Oscar) are/is running a business not a charity, but if it was my relative, I would expect something more than what they’ve suggested.

 

[Mike Johnson]

"Do unto others as thous would have them do unto you"

 

[Robson689]

If he’s been with you less than 2 years then you can get rid without a reason

Just give him notice in line with whatever you’ve put in his employment contract

 

[oscar21]

As most of you know I'm not very enthusiastic about taking on young people, I think they are a lost cause nowadays and none of them are any where near ready to be thrown into the middle of a working site, both on the physical side and the "banter" side of things.

Yet despite all that a fellow worker has been badgering me about giving his son a job with us as he desperately wants to become an electrician, he has just left school and apparently has got his place at college and is starting this September. So yesterday I let him come with us as the site was empty, firstly he turned up in trainers because his dad had "taken his boots" but hey ho, these things happen. He actually did ok, ran a few cables in, could use a hammer, that sort of thing and he seemed to enjoy it. I didn't push him too hard, didn't talk down to him, treated him as a grown up, we finished at 3PM and I even offered to drop him at home later so his mum didn't have to come and get him. Told him to come in a gain today and it would be more of the same.

This morning he was a no show, no phone call, text or anything.

 

[7029 dave]

As most of you know I'm not very enthusiastic about taking on young people, I think they are a lost cause nowadays and none of them are any where near ready to be thrown into the middle of a working site, both on the physical side and the "banter" side of things.

Yet despite all that a fellow worker has been badgering me about giving his son a job with us as he desperately wants to become an electrician, he has just left school and apparently has got his place at college and is starting this September. So yesterday I let him come with us as the site was empty, firstly he turned up in trainers because his dad had "taken his boots" but hey ho, these things happen. He actually did ok, ran a few cables in, could use a hammer, that sort of thing and he seemed to enjoy it. I didn't push him too hard, didn't talk down to him, treated him as a grown up, we finished at 3PM and I even offered to drop him at home later so his mum didn't have to come and get him. Told him to come in a gain today and it would be more of the same.

This morning he was a no show, no phone call, text or anything.

And he's starting college in September throwing away an opportunity. I started as a Saturday boy school holidays etc when I was 15years old back in 1979. Some of us knew what we wanted to be.

 

[nicebutdim]

As most of you know I'm not very enthusiastic about taking on young people, I think they are a lost cause nowadays and none of them are any where near ready to be thrown into the middle of a working site, both on the physical side and the "banter" side of things.

Yet despite all that a fellow worker has been badgering me about giving his son a job with us as he desperately wants to become an electrician, he has just left school and apparently has got his place at college and is starting this September. So yesterday I let him come with us as the site was empty, firstly he turned up in trainers because his dad had "taken his boots" but hey ho, these things happen. He actually did ok, ran a few cables in, could use a hammer, that sort of thing and he seemed to enjoy it. I didn't push him too hard, didn't talk down to him, treated him as a grown up, we finished at 3PM and I even offered to drop him at home later so his mum didn't have to come and get him. Told him to come in a gain today and it would be more of the same.

This morning he was a no show, no phone call, text or anything.

I might be inclined to give him another chance depending on the reasons for his no show. If there was to be another chance it would be accompanied by a lecture on common courtesy and the basics of what is expected of anyone wanting to work with me.

 

[ferg]

I might be inclined to give him another chance depending on the reasons for his no show. If there was to be another chance it would be accompanied by a lecture on common courtesy and the basics of what is expected of anyone wanting to work with me.

Me too He's just a kid at 16 probably no idea as to what's expected.
I'm sure lots of the folks on here were great apprentices, I wasn't... needed a few second chances before I found my feet.
Having said that I worked for a big company that could afford to do so.
Without knowing any details maybe offer him a weeks trial if you are so inclined, pay him on Thursday and if he turns up on Friday you'll have a good idea on where he's at

 

[7029 dave]

Me too He's just a kid at 16 probably no idea as to what's expected.
I'm sure lots of the folks on here were great apprentices, I wasn't... needed a few second chances before I found my feet.
Having said that I worked for a big company that could afford to do so.
Without knowing any details maybe offer him a weeks trial if you are so inclined, pay him on Thursday and if he turns up on Friday you'll have a good idea on where he's at

For me it was personal, was told at school forget it your not clever enough. Made me even more determined to prove the system wrong. If you put the work in and determination you can be/ do want ever you like.

 

[nicebutdim]

For me it was personal, was told at school forget it your not clever enough. Made me even more determined to prove the system wrong. If you put the work in and determination you can be/ do want ever you like.

Within reason

 

[ferg]

For me it was personal, was told at school forget it your not clever enough. Made me even more determined to prove the system wrong. If you put the work in and determination you can be/ do want ever you like.

Good on you, some kids take it the other way and believe it.
Some people are what they are because of what they are told and some in spite of it.
Either way it worked for you.

 

[MDJ]

What to do with a failing apprentice........ bin him but what are the legal problems that may arise.

well?????? info would be nice

 

[LukeD]

why bother employing anyone these days with the ridiculous laws and regs ? We owe them nothing . A publican can tell a customer to leave without having to give a reason. Why should an employer have to worry so much and know many times they are been "played" by staff that know they can mess around , be lazy and still get a payout ?