Fault on socket circuit

[Grant McLaren]

I am puzzling over an intermittent fault on a ground floor/kitchen socket circuit. Initially it seemed as soon as the oven switched on the RCD would trip. However, after unplugging the oven, I used a socket tester on other sockets, which would sometimes trip the RCD. It's pretty random, sometimes it will trip as soon as you plug something in, other times not. Zs reading were fine. The ring main has been broken, although the earths are still continuous. From what I saw, the socket circuit has not been done well.

When I left the property yesterday everything was on, but I'm waiting for a call from tenant to say it's tripped again.

Any thoughts on what it could be and why it has suddenly started now?

Regards.

 

[Grant McLaren]

So just like this post your using guess work to carry out jobs. You are a chancer who has no idea what you are doing.

Please tell me Dillb, how is it that by downgrading a 32amp to 20amp is a bad thing or bad practice. Please explain the logic. Surely, it is more risky to follow your practice and assume, because the RFC is continuous that some cowboy hasn't come along and spur off the ring with no protection.

 

[elsparko]

Please tell me Dillb, how is it that by downgrading a 32amp to 20amp is a bad thing or bad practice. Please explain the logic. Surely, it is more risky to follow your practice and assume, because the RFC is continuous that some cowboy hasn't come along and spur off the ring with no protection.

how do you know that someone hasnt done as you say? by testing!

 

[Grant McLaren]

So just like this post your using guess work to carry out jobs. You are a chancer who has no idea what you are doing.

Please tell me Dillb, how is it that by downgrading a 32amp to 20amp is a bad thing or bad practice.

Well I was just wondering Spoon, if Grant has, either given Money to the NICEIC (Thanks for that Dillb) or he is registered, begs some questions how on Earth (judging by some of Grants statement) was this acheived? and was the assessment carried out in the Assessors Vehicle.

Please explain the logic. Surely, it is more risky to follow your practice and assume, because the RFC is continuous that some cowboy hasn't come along and spur off the ring with no protection.

 

[Dillb]

Please tell me Dillb, how is it that by downgrading a 32amp to 20amp is a bad thing or bad practice. Please explain the logic. Surely, it is more risky to follow your practice and assume, because the RFC is continuous that some cowboy hasn't come along and spur off the ring with no protection.

Becasue thats what testing is for.

 

[Pete999]

I'm out!

 

[Dillb]

Please tell me Dillb, how is it that by downgrading a 32amp to 20amp is a bad thing or bad practice.


Please explain the logic. Surely, it is more risky to follow your practice and assume, because the RFC is continuous that some cowboy hasn't come along and spur off the ring with no protection.

You do know how to calculate R1+R2 for a RFC to ensure there are no spurs on it dont you?

 

[Pete999]

Please tell me Dillb, how is it that by downgrading a 32amp to 20amp is a bad thing or bad practice.


Please explain the logic. Surely, it is more risky to follow your practice and assume, because the RFC is continuous that some cowboy hasn't come along and spur off the ring with no protection.

If it's just 1 socket being spurred off of a RFC what protection would be required?

 

[Grant McLaren]

Becasue thats what testing is for.

So if you do a RFC and the readings are acceptable, do you assume the ring is not broken and that someone hasn't spurred off the ring?

 

[Grant McLaren]

If it's just 1 socket being spurred off of a RFC what protection would be required?

How would you know it's just one socket?

 

[Dillb]

So if you do a RFC and the readings are acceptable, do you assume the ring is not broken and that someone hasn't spurred off the ring?

If r1, r2, rn , R1+R2 reading are all in order then there womt be a break or spur on the circuit

 

[Pete999]

How would you know it's just one socket?

Deleted, losing the will to carry on answering daft questions, from someone who ought to know better.

 

[Spoon]

If it's just 1 socket being spurred off of a RFC what protection would be required?

I know this.... I know this.....

 

[Strima]

 

[elsparko]

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[Andy78]

I think the OP has some valid points.

Be back soon, I just have to pop out to collect my boots from the cobblers. Oh and the missus asked me to pop in the butchers and get some tripe. And some balony.
And the pet bull in the garden needs cleaning up after too.