Fault on socket circuit

[Grant McLaren]

I am puzzling over an intermittent fault on a ground floor/kitchen socket circuit. Initially it seemed as soon as the oven switched on the RCD would trip. However, after unplugging the oven, I used a socket tester on other sockets, which would sometimes trip the RCD. It's pretty random, sometimes it will trip as soon as you plug something in, other times not. Zs reading were fine. The ring main has been broken, although the earths are still continuous. From what I saw, the socket circuit has not been done well.

When I left the property yesterday everything was on, but I'm waiting for a call from tenant to say it's tripped again.

Any thoughts on what it could be and why it has suddenly started now?

Regards.

 

[Grant McLaren]

Why?

Because it is safer to assume the ring is broken and downgrade. It's rare that someone needs 32 amps anymore.

 

[Dillb]

If I do work on it I do, with the possible exception of a kitchen or utilities circuit, since they might need the extra juice. NICEIC assessor thought it was a good idea. Besides, I thought the UK was moving away from rings, since they were originally used for old school heating systems.

Ahh the good old NICEIC says it’s good. Why leave a kitchen on a ring and not other circuits?

 

[Dillb]

Because it is safer to assume the ring is broken and downgrade. It's rare that someone needs 32 amps anymore.

So just like this post your using guess work to carry out jobs. You are a chancer who has no idea what you are doing.

 

[Grant McLaren]

Why?

Because it is safer to assume the ring is broken and downgrade. It's rare that someone needs 32 amps anymore.

What tester did you use to carry out the testing?

Fluke socket tester
Fluke multimeter
Fluke multifunction tester, i.e. installation tester

 

[Octopus]

Oh my god

 

[Pete999]

If I do work on it I do, with the possible exception of a kitchen or utilities circuit, since they might need the extra juice. NICEIC assessor thought it was a good idea. Besides, I thought the UK was moving away from rings, since they were originally used for old school heating systems.

You mean you are a member of a CPScheme as you say you had a NICEIC Assessor look at your work?

 

[Dillb]

Because it is safer to assume the ring is broken and downgrade. It's rare that someone needs 32 amps anymore.

Fluke socket tester
Fluke multimeter
Fluke multifunction tester, i.e. installation tester

Why use 3 items of test equipment when one of those listed is all that that you needed to use? What is the make and model of your multifunction tester?

 

[Grant McLaren]

Ahh the good old NICEIC says it’s good. Why leave a kitchen on a ring and not other circuits?

I don't necessarily and might sometimes downgrade it. However, if I do a full rewire, I tend to do the ground, 1st floor, etc., as a radial on a 20amp. I put the kitchen on a ring (32amp), simply because the appliances might demand it.

 

[Pete999]

Because it is safer to assume the ring is broken and downgrade. It's rare that someone needs 32 amps anymore.

What a ridiculous statement. You sure this aint a wind up?

 

[Dillb]

I don't necessarily and might sometimes downgrade it. However, if I do a full rewire, I tend to do the ground, 1st floor, etc., as a radial on a 20amp. I put the kitchen on a ring (32amp), simply because the appliances might demand it.

Hang on you mentioned existing circuits. Not new ones.

 

[Grant McLaren]

Why use 3 items of test equipment when one of those listed is all that that you needed to use? What is the make and model of your multifunction tester?

without going out to look, I believe it is 1662.

 

[Dillb]

without going out to look, I believe it is 1662.

That tester is all you need, not a multimeter and socket tester for fault finding.

 

[Pete999]

You mean you are a member of a CPScheme as you say you had a NICEIC Assessor look at your work?

OK I'll aske the question more directly, !are you registered with the NICEIC?"

 

[Spoon]

Because it is safer to assume the ring is broken and downgrade. It's rare that someone needs 32 amps anymore.

lmao.... Thanks mate.. that it the best I've heard in a bit... Even had tears in my eyes...

 

[Dillb]

OK I'll aske the question more directly, !have you sent money to the NICEIC?"

Corrected that for you Pete