Fault on socket circuit

[Grant McLaren]

I am puzzling over an intermittent fault on a ground floor/kitchen socket circuit. Initially it seemed as soon as the oven switched on the RCD would trip. However, after unplugging the oven, I used a socket tester on other sockets, which would sometimes trip the RCD. It's pretty random, sometimes it will trip as soon as you plug something in, other times not. Zs reading were fine. The ring main has been broken, although the earths are still continuous. From what I saw, the socket circuit has not been done well.

When I left the property yesterday everything was on, but I'm waiting for a call from tenant to say it's tripped again.

Any thoughts on what it could be and why it has suddenly started now?

Regards.

 

[Grant McLaren]

Hang on you mentioned existing circuits. Not new ones.

yes, if I do work on an existing circuit, which requires minor works or domestic installation certificate, I will usually (not always) assume the ring is broken and downgrade. If I come to a kitchen circuit, I might do it differently and keep the 32 if the ring is continuous. But this generally speaking, not a hard and fast rule.

 

[Grant McLaren]

lmao.... Thanks mate.. that it the best I've heard in a bit... Even had tears in my eyes...

Why is it funny? Why wouldn't you do it?

 

[Pete999]

Corrected that for you Pete

Same thing Dillb isn't it?

 

[Grant McLaren]

What a ridiculous statement. You sure this aint a wind up?

Why is it ridiculous? How is safer not to assume a broken ring?

 

[Dillb]

yes, if I do work on an existing circuit, which requires minor works or domestic installation certificate, I will usually (not always) assume the ring is broken and downgrade. If I come to a kitchen circuit, I might do it differently and keep the 32 if the ring is continuous. But this generally speaking, not a hard and fast rule.

So you could actually be charging your customers unecessary money for materials npt needed? Rather that. Carrying a few simple tests to prove everything is fine?

Whats a "domestic installation certificate"?

 

[Dillb]

Why is it ridiculous? How is safer not to assume a broken ring?

Because you have to issue a relavant cert and carry put testing anyway which shows everthing is good for comtimued use?

 

[Spoon]

Whats a "domestic installation certificate"?

Maybe the NICEIC have designed themselves a new cert...

 

[elsparko]

what in the ruddy hell is going on here

 

[Pete999]

Why is it ridiculous? How is safer not to assume a broken ring?

The best way, would be to test it properly rather make a dumb assumption.

 

[Spoon]

Why is it funny? Why wouldn't you do it?

Why would you 'assume' the ring is broke. Why not test it and fix it if it is.... Rather than ripping off the customer and charging them for something that they don't need...

 

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I'm out!

 

[Spoon]

I'm out!

Don't go... this is the best laugh I've had in ages....

 

[Dillb]

I'm out!

Its all good, its the 21st Century and we are glad you feel you be be so open and honest with us all. I hope your family are as supportive of this too.

 

[Pete999]

Maybe the NICEIC have designed themselves a new cert...

Well I was just wondering Spoon, if Grant has, either given Money to the NICEIC (Thanks for that Dillb) or he is registered, begs some questions how on Earth (judging by some of Grants statement) was this acheived? and was the assessment carried out in the Assessors Vehicle.

 

[elsparko]

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