First electric shock

[Chrisuk]

Some of the regulars will know I'm in training...slightly confused...all day today I've been sleeving the cpc because none at all had any on and putting connector blocks in choc blocks..15mins before leaving I have my head above the ceiling...power on since where we are working are open and they don't want a third of the store in darkness from killing the mcb.

Had the connector block between finger and thumb..carefully putting it the choc block when I heard it cracking..was tightening the screws when I got a belt.

So I'm thinking could it arc...I didn't see anything...just felt it.....or Is it more likely I just had a brain fart and my thumb touched some exposed conductor?

I
Least I know the rcd kicks in fast

 

[trev]

He's a clown not you Trev the muppet telling the OP to hold the connector it's OK, Jesus

I never said he was a clown mate, I meant his gaffer was

 

[Chrisuk]

One of the most dangerous places to get a belt is on steps or ladder , also you say an RCD was in place , well if it did operate you were lucky , if you got a belt between L & N and you're on insulated steps , the RCD would probably have never operated , the message is clear son ,DONT work live and test first before you start work ..

Don't know what it was between but yes the rcd kicked in and I was up ladders...I'll refuse it tomorrow if I have too
I'd rather miss out on the rest of the job than be Brown bread

 

[Kamikaze]

Thank you very much trev..I don't want to lose this job or opportunity and I do believe stuff he says...why would I question him when I have so much less experience

I only wanted help and advice..not a roasting......I got that earlier

I hope you put that little tingle in the accident book. Next time your in doubt about health and safety just ask your boss to see the risk assessment, method statement and permit to work. At the very least it will make him sweat a bit.:biggrin:

 

[SPARTYKUS]

I've had three p!$$3r5 (sorry mods but wanted to use the correct term....) in my time.

all three were working alone, and I was RUSHING.

silly man, but still here to learn (maybe? 4th time might get me) from it.

 

[Slowhand]

Have a look in BGB Part 2 Definitions.

Instructed Person. A person ADEQUATELY ADVISED OR SUPERVISED BY SKILLED PERSONS to enable him or her TO AVOID THE DANGERS WHICH ELECTRICITY MAY CREATE.

I'm not saying you should know this yet mate but the muppet you work for should!!

 

[davesparks]

Sod the BGB, it's the EAWR which is actually law and is relevant here.

 

[Chrisuk]

Don't have the BGB.. first year so was Told I don't need it yet. And again I listened to someone because if I don't how do I learn...I've got to believe what a time served spark says..why would I not...they should know best...if all else fails I come on here and get my --- handed to me haha jk

 

[Slowhand]

Sod the BGB, it's the EAWR which is actually law and is relevant here.

Yes l agree with you entirely but my point is that his boss should be teaching safe working practices and the OP should be advised and supervised not just told to get on with it.

I thought he might need to know that.

 

[shanky887614]

working live is fine as long as you take certain precautions, first only use vde screwdrivers, hold things with vde pliers/long nose pliers.

yes it will take longer but its safer.

never put hands on chockblock etc with live cables, the cables can fall out sometimes if they didnt bite properly

 

[Chrisuk]

Got 2 sets of vde hand tools and I'll hold my hand up..I had vde long noise pliers in my pocket when it happened...but I was told touching the plastic Is safe..like a plonker I believed it..like I said I'd been working since 8am and must of put 15 connectors in blocks using my hands only touching the plastic

But I'm not thick..message received ppl

 

[7029 dave]

working live is fine as long as you take certain precautions, first only use vde screwdrivers, hold things with vde pliers/long nose pliers.

yes it will take longer but its safer.

never put hands on chockblock etc with live cables, the cables can fall out sometimes if they didnt bite properly

Don't forget the rubbers, if you must.!! lol

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Don't have the BGB.. first year so was Told I don't need it yet.

You don't need one of the principal sources of reference for your trade? Why ever not? I got my first copy of the regs when I was 8.

I won't give you any agro about the live working thing, it's been covered already! But then, think ahead... even if you've been told that touching the plastic is 'safe' (it's not, it's only single insulation) why would you not expect to find a loose cable that popped out and touched you, or cause an arc that burned or blinded you? Nothing's infallible, especially other sparks' work!

PS the plastic housing is called a Choc Box, not chock blocks, That's slang for terminal block itself.

 

[davesparks]

working live is fine as long as you take certain precautions, first only use vde screwdrivers, hold things with vde pliers/long nose pliers.

yes it will take longer but its

There's a lot more to it than just using insulated tools!

First and foremost is that it is a last resort if there is no other option.

Inconvenience, not wanting to work late, the boss putting pressure on you, you can't be bothered to walk all the way to the DB and back or anything like that are not good reasons!

 

[davesparks]

Don't have the BGB.. first year so was Told I don't need it yet. And again I listened to someone because if I don't how do I learn...I've got to believe what a time served spark says..why would I not...they should know best...if all else fails I come on here and get my --- handed to me haha jk

Yes you have to listen to your mentor, but you have to use your own brain too. You are not a sheep, you don't have to blindly and unthinkingly follow your leader!

 

[SPARTYKUS]

There's a lot more to it than just using insulated tools!

First and foremost is that it is a last resort if there is no other option.

Inconvenience, not wanting to work late, the boss putting pressure on you, you can't be bothered to walk all the way to the DB and back or anything like that are not good reasons!

Or rushing because its beer o'clock:nono: