Flex for fixed wiring

[charlie76]

Would you suggest flex for fixed wiring on an EICR is a C3? The client has basically run flex from one socket to a surface socket (i.e. a glorified extension lead). However I would say this is fixed wiring.

What does 521.9.1 mean where it states "only where the the relevant provisions of the regulations are met"? Does this mean CCC, installation method, overload protection etc.

 

[Des 56]

The good old window maker, I've seen it a couple of times. Also seen it a fair bit on domestic backup generators, where instead of an appliance inlet they have used a commando socket, so the lead is plug-plug

I suppose that means there re are a lot of grieving good old window maker widows as well

 

[ipf]

I came across a 2G socket in a kitchen last year, spured off a socket in the adjacent room - the cable was 0.75mm flex

Needless to say the flex was removed.

Aye......found a fused spur for a burglar alarm.....fed in alarm cable from a double socket......at least he'd doubled up the cores, though!

Back to thread.....I never like flex used for permanent installs, certainly on power circuits. All has been discussed, I know, but I would generally include it in the notes as inappropriate wiring....after all, a report has a lot to do with your opinion.

 

[ipf]

Aye......found a fused spur for a burglar alarm.....fed in alarm cable from a double socket......at least he'd doubled up the cores, though!

Back to thread.....I never like flex used for permanent installs, certainly on power circuits. All has been discussed, I know, but I would generally include it in the notes as inappropriate wiring....after all, a report has a lot to do with your opinion.

edit. Baffled with that repeat???

 

[Spoon]

Back to thread.....I never like flex used for permanent installs, certainly on power circuits.

I'm not sure the flex was used for permanent install. I'm waiting for @charlie76 to reply to my question at the end of my post #17.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

I believe a bit of confusion may be arising from your use of the word plug when you presumably mean socket.

Also about the use of the word(s) plugtop when he means plug.

 

[ipf]

I'm not sure the flex was used for permanent install. I'm waiting for @charlie76 to reply to my question at the end of my post #17.

I'm with you there....does sound like one's permanent, though.

 

[DPG]

Also about the use of the word(s) plugtop when he means plug.

The term 'plug top' is correct when referring to a 13A mains plug.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

The term 'plug top' is correct when referring to a 13A mains plug.

No it isn't. A plug top is the cover of the plug, the bit that is held on with a screw and has no electrical connections.

 

[DPG]

No it isn't. A plug top is the cover of the plug, the bit that is held on with a screw and has no electrical connections.

Incorrect - the original meaning of a 13A plug-top is the whole plug assembly.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

Incorrect - the original meaning of a 13A plug-top is the whole plug assembly.

Well it not the meaning now, anymore than a socket is now called a plug.

 

[DPG]

Well it not the meaning now, anymore than a socket is now called a plug.

Is that definition straight from the regs?

 

[123]

Hmmmm, Greenbrook have lots of plug tops for sale

 

[Pete999]

I generally do ignore them Pete but if any are blatantly dangerous like wired in two core there is every chance I will comment on it.

Understand what you are saying Westy, me I would rip the pl

Hmmmm, Greenbrook have lots of plug tops for sale

As do this lot
electrifis+plug+tops+uk - Yahoo Search Results - https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=electrifis%2Bplug%2Btops%2Buk&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-102&type=default

 

[Brian Angell]

Have to agree with DPG. A plug top is the correct name for the whole plug assembly.

 

[elsparko]

 

[ipf]

'13 amp Plug top' for me, too. There can be all sorts and types of plugs......including them what hold the water in me bath....

edit..^^beat me to it.
OK.....for sticking in your ears.

 

[davesparks]

The term 'plug top' is correct when referring to a 13A mains plug.

Not any more it isn’t, that terminology was changed many years ago.

 

[DPG]

Not any more it isn’t, that terminology was changed many years ago.

Hasn't become wrong - it's been just shortened over the years, like photo, bus and phone. Nobody one day said 'right lads, it's not plug top any more'.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

If it is a plugtop what is it on top of?

 

[DPG]

If it is a plugtop what is it on top of?

I give up? Was that in a Christmas cracker or something?

Have a check on Google - you will see they were orignally (and still are by many) referred to as plug tops.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

Because many refer to them wrongly does not make it right.

 

[DPG]

Because many refer to them wrongly does not make it right.

It is not wrong, although I agree it isn't used much these days. I suggest you read some old books on electrical engineering, installation, etc. It is the full name for a plug. It never meant the top cover of a plug!

 

[DPG]

A quick Google check shows that at least Farnell, Tool Station and Amazon still refer to them as plug top, amongst others.

Don't know why I'm banging on about it really, I wouldn't have said anything if you hadn't criticised someone for using correct terminology originally.

 

[Dave OCD]

I fitted literally dozens of plug tops in the 1st year of my apprenticeship, all MK and they had 'Hospital Property' embossed on the cover in red, didn't stop one or two going missing over the years though.

 

[DPG]

Just fitted an MK plug top (complete with proper knurled screw terminal tops) to a 1970s ghetto blaster. Lovely quality. The plug and the radio!