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My little brother is 63 and if he where the type of person that did that sort of thing (which he is not) I would consider he deserve everything he gets.
What if he was killed ?

I can just imagine you at his funeral saying he got everything he deserved.
 
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Very odd, we have gone from giving a thief a slap too murder, the "what if's" are quite interesting to try and justify an opinion.
Giving someone a slap is completely different to smashing their hands in with a lump hammer.

A slap is a common assault and is unlikely to get into a courtroom.

There are many cases of people who have died from a single punch which would be manslaughter.

You obviously don’t watch emmerdale.
 
What needs to happen is far tougher laws and punishment for offenders. Better security, better security marking of tools and equipment.
Tools should be designed with some kind of security measures in them. Something like an easily removable, unique, 'key' that renders the tool useless when it is removed.


I find it hard to believe that this is a proven fact, can you provide proof?

Yes and they should be made to do something about it through legislation.

Then I think you need to read my post again as I have said nothing of the the sort. What I was saying is that we should not lower ourselves to the level of the criminals.
I'm saying that getting yourself convicted of assault is not going to help your cause at all and is going to harm you far more than it harms the person you attack.

That's not my ideology and I haven't said anything of the sort.
On point two, this is my local court where I have been summons on several occasions in the past on the most heinous of rimes such as 36 in a 30.

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Yea, they don't bother with your everyday criminal anymore.
 
Sometimes the bad guys do get rough justice when they have been caught. I remember a fairly amusing incident. A small pub in my hometown back in Scotland. Bloody goldmine it was...like a cartoon pub where they all rushed in for opening and they drunk hard until lights out.
Anyway the pub in question was owned and run at the time by 2 boxers who had both fought and won in the Commonwealth Games...they run their pub brilliantly never giving out needless thrashings but everyone knew there really was a line and if you crossed it and ignored the repeated warnings (think yellow car leading to red card) then they would often fall over on their way out the side door.
The pub got broken into one night. The float was nicked and they bust open the fruit machine which at the time was full of 10p pieces. Owners discovered it in the morning and cleaned the place up and opened the doors. Now it may have been an unfortunate coincidence but a semi regular walked in 1st thing and proceeded to pay for his drinks using 10p pieces. 1st round, 2nd round and so on. He was a well-known petty thief and it was also observed that he had indeed been "skint" for the last few days. One of the owners asked him for a wee chat which resulted in the chap falling over quite hard when the answers given were not to the owner's satisfaction. Words like "you are actually trying to take the ----" "trying to rub our noses in it" "think we are effing stupid".
One thing is for sure. The pub never got broken into ever again...and the petty thief had wire in his jaw for a short time afterwards. He was allowed back in after about a year...so no hard feelings and not a policeman in sight nor an insurance claim ever made.
I also witnessed a chippy in London manage to go from the 1st floor of the building we were working on right down to the road outside where a car had come up and the occupants were getting to work trying to open his van with views of removing items lol. The chippy was a proper nutter lol. He got down there in seconds. They ran back into their car and proceeded to try to get away...the guy took his claw hammer out and started to decorate the windows of the car. The car then shot off down the street but it was a dead end. it was like a bloody gunfight with mad chippy standing in the middle of the road and some pretty sorry-looking thieves spinning the car round to go head on. They drove straight at him but he eventually jumped out the way whilst managing to get one final shot off in the form of embedding his hammer in their windscreen. All quite entertaining but tbh it could have ended really badly for the chippy they would have run him over and killing him probably would have seemed an option for them.
 
I don’t think a lump hammer to the hands make any difference.

I’ve smashed my thumb on a vast number of occasions with a big hammer while chasing walls… and it still works… mostly.
Works for now but you may suffer in later life.
I find that my some of fingers seized up after using a screwdriver for a long time.
Hence why I love the Bosch 2go the newer one is a pain with the button on the top as you tend to hit it at the wrong time, but the mechanical clutch is better than the older one.
Just saying 🤣
 

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