GU10 Question

[Jamie Harris]

Hi,

Apologies if this isn't the correct place to ask this. I had some builders in who I asked to change my old 12v MR16 with transformers to 240v GU10 LED lamps which no longer needed the transformer.

I didn't think anything was wrong until I had an electrician come and take a look at a different issue who told me that every light had been wired wrong and that I would need fire proof, earthed GU10 fittings.
He subsequently quoted me quite a large fee per light and I just wanted to make sure it was necessary before going ahead with it.

Could someone, either with experience or professional knowledge, tell me what exactly is and isn't necessary.
Do I need to change out every single fitting for one that is earthed?
Do I need to buy a fire proof cage for every single bulb as well? (I don't even think there is enough headroom between the upstairs floor and downstairs ceiling to be able to fit the fire proof ones).


Thanks,
Jamie

 

[Leesparkykent]

@westward10 just for you


Watch: Hylec DEBOX SL - http://professional-electrician.com/products/watch-hylec-debox-sl/

 

[westward10]

@westward10 just for you


Watch: Hylec DEBOX SL - http://professional-electrician.com/products/watch-hylec-debox-sl/

Jesus, I'm not one to judge people, yes I am and when I see choc boxes in the back of someone's van I want to torch it.

 

[Midwest]

Jesus, I'm not one to judge people, yes I am and when I see choc boxes in the back of someone's van I want to torch it.

What's your weapon of choice, junction boxes I mean

 

[westward10]

Something like Hager J501.

 

[Midwest]

Yep I've used them before. Just interested what other people use? I usually fit JCC or Click d/l, so don't have cause to use jb's that much for d/l.

 

[telectrix]

http://i.Upload the image directly to the thread.com/YE0Q1vs.jpg

It's a detached house and they're in the ceiling, above it is the attic.

Thanks

exactly what i'd expect from a builder/bathroom fitter/kitchen fitter. maximise profit by doing the job as cheap as possible as long as it works. those fittings would have come with an enclosed joint box. builder has discarded them to save time as they are quite fiddly to connect.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Not trying to start an elongated discussion, but I was looking to quote it here, and would like to save it for future reference

Was it this one mate?

https://www.downlights.co.uk/files/ESC-Fire-Rated-Downlights.pdf?334762691

 

[Midwest]

Was it this one mate?

https://www.downlights.co.uk/files/ESC-Fire-Rated-Downlights.pdf?334762691

Thanks

 

[Octopus]

All the Polish builders I have encountered, who are not working for UK firms have little or no respect for any of the UK building regs.

As for changing MR16 to GU10 lamps, you need to ensure that that earth (cpc) is continuous from the fuseboard to the last fitting.......

 

[Joshua]

A little off topic but most 'Polish' builders aren't even Polish and the ones I've met usually have better standards than most English builders, maybe I was just lucky though.

On topic,
I don't see any reason why they couldn't use choc boxes and get a better quality light fitting. Better still, just get LED lamps so there's little to no heat generated.

 

[telectrix]

Yep I've used them before. Just interested what other people use? I usually fit JCC or Click d/l, so don't have cause to use jb's that much for d/l.

my personal preference is wagos inside line products eggs.

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[westward10]

A little off topic but most 'Polish' builders aren't even Polish and the ones I've met usually have better standards than most English builders, maybe I was just lucky though.

On topic,
I don't see any reason why they couldn't use choc boxes and get a better quality light fitting. Better still, just get LED lamps so there's little to no heat generated.

Choc Boxes! where do you park your van

 

[Joshua]

Can you smell smoke?

 

[loz]

If it makes u feel a bit better, they look like Enlite gu10 led lamps he are cracking lamps so all you need is a decent fitting