Help! Simple install has gone bad.

[gentz]

Hi ,

I was asked to do a couple of simple fixes in an old house (light not working, replace another light with a chandelier and similar. It is an old installation (red+black mostly, push-button MCBs etc) I needed to replace a rose and T off another lighting circuit to fix a light in the loft using a junction box (and make ready for a smoke alarm. All the bits I did are working fine but much of the rest of the house lighting is now dead and I'm out of ideas on how to fix it. I checked and re-checked everything I touched and all seems fine. Also looked around for any obvious areas that might have been disturbed. The client is very understanding but obviously, needs a fix. I am fairly new at all this (I only accept smaller jobs) but this is now going over my head. I have advertised here for a more experienced electrician I could work with (I can provide at least some regular work) but no answers yet. Now I need one immediately. Anyone willing to look at this? This is paid work. Please email if you are interested. Central London.

Thanks

Paul

 

[Short Circuit]

Tel is right Gentz, a saturday night is not the best time to post for something like this! Fingers crossed the ones on here who do have a life will be reading this tomorrow!

 

[Rockingit]

Tel is right Gentz, a saturday night is not the best time to post for something like this! Fingers crossed the ones on here who do have a life will be reading this tomorrow!

[goes off to drown his sorrows.....]

 

[Rockingit]

For the record; if I wasn't three hours drive away with a decent bottle of wine inside me then yes, I'd come and give you a hand.

 

[mattmoo1974]

For the record; if I wasn't three hours drive away with a decent bottle of wine inside me then yes, I'd come and give you a hand.

Your from Zomerset, Wine? Are you gay or have you run out of Zider????

 

[telectrix]

me too. at least the day wasn't all bad. liverpool got a draw after walking all over that manchester team.

 

[gooner1984]

Gentz check your inbox if you want my help answer my pm

 

[Rockingit]

Your from Zomerset, Wine? Are you gay or have you run out of Zider????

It's Mrs Rockingits fault, she poured it. I supped on the zider last night. Long night.

 

[Short Circuit]

Gentz, i might be missing something here - other than a night out, but hasn't Gooner 1984 asked you where you are - is Harlow far from you?


Edit - just seen your second post Gooner! hopefully you can help him out

 

[gooner1984]

Well I'm about 19 miles from central London. Am willing to help him out of this mess

 

[mattmoo1974]

It's Mrs Rockingits fault, she poured it. I supped on the zider last night. Long night.

As Jesse Ventura said "Bunch of slack jawed faggots around here"

 

[Rockingit]

Well I'm about 19 miles from central London. Am willing to help him out of this mess

For all the comments running on 'the other thread', this to me is what it's all about - being professional (however the hell that's defined) in time of need, and the power of the internet to pull people together.

It's kind of like Blind Date, all this meeting up on a Saturday night. Where's Cilla when you need her?

 

[vernam616]

For all the comments running on 'the other thread', this to me is what it's all about - being professional (however the hell that's defined) in time of need, and the power of the internet to pull people together.

It's kind of like Blind Date, all this meeting up on a Saturday night. Where's Cilla when you need her?

You simply cant advertise/claim a service that you cannot carry out to the standard required, of all things certainly not electrical/gas workings

Had the OP been a DIYER having a go himself id find myself being a little more lenient as lets face it we all like to save a bit of cash here and there and i think its good to have a go, however telling a customer you can carry out a job and lets face it something very basic in this case then buggering it up is highly unprofessional, theres some excellent advice on this forum with some very seasoned electricians, all of whom i presume served their time and learnt the trade just like i did, if things carry on as they are one day there will be no-one to help or answer these stupid incompetant questions.

How different would this thread have been if the jist of it was " Hi guys im not experienced/qualified enough but have carried out a job, the day after the area i was working in has set on fire and burnt the house down, what would be peoples views then?

The trade needs protecting in a better way from things like this happening

I hope your CUSTOMER gets the problem sorted

 

[Rockingit]

You simply cant advertise/claim a service that you cannot carry out to the standard required.....I hope your CUSTOMER gets the problem sorted

A fair point, well made.

 

[gentz]

You simply cant advertise/claim a service that you cannot carry out to the standard required, of all things certainly not electrical/gas workings

Had the OP been a DIYER having a go himself id find myself being a little more lenient as lets face it we all like to save a bit of cash here and there and i think its good to have a go, however telling a customer you can carry out a job and lets face it something very basic in this case then buggering it up is highly unprofessional, theres some excellent advice on this forum with some very seasoned electricians, all of whom i presume served their time and learnt the trade just like i did, if things carry on as they are one day there will be no-one to help or answer these stupid incompetant questions.

How different would this thread have been if the jist of it was " Hi guys im not experienced/qualified enough but have carried out a job, the day after the area i was working in has set on fire and burnt the house down, what would be peoples views then?

The trade needs protecting in a better way from things like this happening

I hope your CUSTOMER gets the problem sorted

You make a lot of unwarranted assumptions and guesses. I am qualified but new. I have asked here and anywhere else I can for assistance in getting the experience I know I need for the last 3 months with no answers. I take only jobs I think I can handle. Got any useful suggestions? Some others here have and I am deeply grateful to them.

 

[telectrix]

as i have said before, it's lack of practical training that is at fault here. it's a catch 22. without the experience, you can't do the job efficiently and without doing jobs, searching for faults and their solutions, you don't get the experience. a lot of the time, it's being faced with a problem and not thinking logically, thus getting the situation over complicated. forgetting earths/cpc's for the moment, if something doesn't work, then it's either missing a L or a N. so, you start at the source and logically work from there along the circuit till you find where the fault is. 9 times out of 10, it's a loose, broken or incorrect termination.