How Did we cope back in the Day

[cliffed]

1992 BS7671 16th Edition who remembers doing Supplementary Bonding to everything in Bathrooms..
How did we connect the 4mm in the fittings

 

[buzzlightyear]

1992 BS7671 16th Edition who remembers doing Supplementary Bonding to everything in Bathrooms..
How did we connect the 4mm in the fittings

with a hammer ,we meet again Mr bond.

 

[Moley]

Every time I go into our workshop toilet I look at the pipework. Copper pipe going to a plastic valve and then a 6" length of copper pipe coming from the valve to the plastic tank. Each side of the plastic valve is the earth strap with a short length of earth cable 'earthing' the otherwise totally disconnected 6" piece of copper pipe. Ah, the good old days.

 

[Jock from the north]

In 2017 aberdeen city Council were still insisting on bonding kitchen pipes and sink ,a real pain in the arse as you had to get the apprentice to fit a rad clamp to sink before it was fitted other wise it was a faf.also bathroom rads and pipe work and steel bath all while running in main bonding conductors and rcbos.that was the relaxed rules before it was a 4 mm from light switch to shower to pipes etc .

 

[littlespark]

A lot of fittings came with, and possibly still do, come with a big earthing screw on the body of the fitting. Big enough for a yellow crimp with a hole.

The big trouble was getting a loop in wiring system, switch wire drop and a 4mm through a tiny tiny access hole with a loose gromit.

(Gromit? Grommet?….. more cheese Grommet?)


I think I started on the 15th in 1990…. And I remember as an apprentice being told to bond everything….. I think I’ve still got some radiator clamps from that time. Instant rust spot.

 

[Jock from the north]

A lot of fittings came with, and possibly still do, come with a big earthing screw on the body of the fitting. Big enough for a yellow crimp with a hole.

The big trouble was getting a loop in wiring system, switch wire drop and a 4mm through a tiny tiny access hole with a loose gromit.

(Gromit? Grommet?….. more cheese Grommet?)


I think I started on the 15th in 1990…. And I remember as an apprentice being told to bond everything….. I think I’ve still got some radiator clamps from that time. Instant rust spot.

Plumbers will have cut them all off by know lol .the steel baths we bonded had a large tag like think you pulled out but had to scrape paint /finnish off to get to steel ,we just used earth clamps on bath .also if you pulled it to far it broke through the bath and took the enamel off .all this when every circuit in room was on an rcbo and plastic water incomers in houses .but that's what the council demanded .clerk of works used to come round once a week looking for radiator clamps we had missed.skirting board off palava .we were doing 40 kitchens and bathrooms a week at one point so was very easy to miss out bonding because joiners just cracked on with there bit ,some would phone most wouldn't

 

[littlespark]

How did we cope?
You mean without phones? Daily Sport and Loaded magazines…..

Oh… you mean actual working practices…..

 

[Jock from the north]

How did we cope?
You mean without phones? Daily Sport and Loaded magazines…..

Oh… you mean actual working practices…..

If I could go back in time I'd sabbotage the person who invented the mobile phone.forgetting your phone in the morning is almost as bad as forgetting your tools.theres a condition for it but I can't remember it ,like being afraid of spiders and nobody reads papers anymore at lunchtime its a wonder they still print the red tops

 

[vjsmarwick]

Mmm back in the day if only I could remember that far back these days !
I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast and it’s no supper time yet !
I do remember cursing for all the earths we had to connect back to the earth tape we spent days fixing every 10 inches along 100m of steel trunking !
Back in the day we used to do everything where I’m from and then you would get agency guys arriving that could hardly tie their shoes but still getting paid the same or more !
Working on a small island community we multitasked but we also travelled and we were responsible for the Scottish lighthouses going automatic. Spending a month at a time on a light working in them along side NLB sparks. They were the days 12 hour days and pay packets we dreamed of ! lol

 

[Jock from the north]

Mmm back in the day if only I could remember that far back these days !
I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast and it’s no supper time yet !
I do remember cursing for all the earths we had to connect back to the earth tape we spent days fixing every 10 inches along 100m of steel trunking !
Back in the day we used to do everything where I’m from and then you would get agency guys arriving that could hardly tie their shoes but still getting paid the same or more !
Working on a small island community we multitasked but we also travelled and we were responsible for the Scottish lighthouses going automatic. Spending a month at a time on a light working in them along side NLB sparks. They were the days 12 hour days and pay packets we dreamed of ! lol

When I first started my apprenticeship I got paid in cash ,all taxed of course.on a thursday (pay day ) you finnished at 4 so you had time to go to the bank and deposit your wages .every year you got a weeks wages as a bonus .my first starting hourly rate was £2.07 if I remember right.that was shop rate.now I believe it's up to 8 pound for a first year apprentice. One of the apprentices above me took his 3 seperate brown pay packets to the pub ,weeks wage,2 weeks holiday pay and Xmas bonus (which was taxed) and it fell out his pocket before he was even drunk .ouch
The trouble with getting paid in cash is I never bothered to put my measly 60 pound in bank so found it near impossible to get credit as I had no record of income
If I think back my journey man was only on about 9 pound an hour

 

[vjsmarwick]

When I first started my apprenticeship I got paid in cash ,all taxed of course.on a thursday (pay day ) you finnished at 4 so you had time to go to the bank and deposit your wages .every year you got a weeks wages as a bonus .my first starting hourly rate was £2.07 if I remember right.that was shop rate.now I believe it's up to 8 pound for a first year apprentice. One of the apprentices above me took his 3 seperate brown pay packets to the pub ,weeks wage,2 weeks holiday pay and Xmas bonus (which was taxed) and it fell out his pocket before he was even drunk .ouch
The trouble with getting paid in cash is I never bothered to put my measly 60 pound in bank so found it near impossible to get credit as I had no record of income
If I think back my journey man was only on about 9 pound an hour

Mmm when I was serving my time a first years apprentice wage was £28 a week and a week was 40 hours minimum over time when needed but no extra pay until my second year!
But attending collage I would get my £28 a week plus’s b&b paid and an additional £14 a week for food ! What they didn’t know was my b&b landlady was charging them an extra £2 a day which she gave me back because she knew we were struggling as her son had just finished his apprenticeship!
Out of my £28 I paid £10 a week for keep £10 a week to buy my first motorbike and the rest paid for fuel and a Saturday night out and at 16 you could only sneak a few ! lol back in 1984 even fuel was only 50p a gallon not the £7.50 it is now !

 

[Jock from the north]

Mmm when I was serving my time a first years apprentice wage was £28 a week and a week was 40 hours minimum over time when needed but no extra pay until my second year!
But attending collage I would get my £28 a week plus’s b&b paid and an additional £14 a week for food ! What they didn’t know was my b&b landlady was charging them an extra £2 a day which she gave me back because she knew we were struggling as her son had just finished his apprenticeship!
Out of my £28 I paid £10 a week for keep £10 a week to buy my first motorbike and the rest paid for fuel and a Saturday night out and at 16 you could only sneak a few ! lol back in 1984 even fuel was only 50p a gallon not the £7.50 it is now !

I was never good at saving ,not much got kept asside, did manage to save up to buy my second car when I was 19 ,a Ford escort xr3 the insurance I belive was 2 grand a year ,never kept it long in fact I sold it and got a phone call from police a month later saying it had been crashed into a wall and abandoned. What a waste