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Hi everyone,

I would very much appreciate your feedback/comments regarding this electricial install to help my cousin who has been ripped off and potentially could have put her life at risk!

She has recently had new decking fitted in the back garden and a family friend of hers who I kind of know put in the electrics for the outside lighting. This kid has being doing electrics since leaving school (approx 10years) and I know the firm he served his time with and I have come accross his work before!

He has installed outside lights to the decking in 1.5mm and took the feed straight from a kitchen socket under the sink and cut the earth out. He's then run it to an outside two gang switch (to which only one gang was needed) he then took the feed out of the switch in 2.5mm and fed every metal* light fitting reducing the cable size to 1.5mm then back to 2.5mm. He has cut off every earth at every connection point terminated in connectors and left them out in the open...yes in the open! He has made so many connections in connector blocks and failed to connect the earths from the fittings.

I had to go round earlier to see for myself as I did not believe that he had done such disgusting work when my cousin told me. I have asked for her permission to put these photos up and would like some feedback off other electricians.

I have uploaded some photos to show you how bad this install is.

Thanks

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[ElectriciansForums.net] Is this the worst install you have ever seen? *Feedback wanted!*
[ElectriciansForums.net] Is this the worst install you have ever seen? *Feedback wanted!*
[ElectriciansForums.net] Is this the worst install you have ever seen? *Feedback wanted!*
[ElectriciansForums.net] Is this the worst install you have ever seen? *Feedback wanted!*

If the photos are not clear enough you can view them by clicking below

http://profile.imageshack.us/user/rmc86uk/
 
That is disturbing... What is colloquially known as common sense should dictate that live exposed conductive parts should be covered never mind BS7671...

Burying T&E??? common...

and are the fittings even IP rated?

That said, please excuse my naivety but what is the problem with having the lights fed from a ring main (assuming the additional load would not take the circuit beyond max rated demand).

I have just done something similar to a new build house where they had run 6mm to a hob point that was going to feed an induction hob, but instead the owners fitted a gas hob and so there is 6mm cable on a 40am MCB to feed a tiny electrical spark... I have added a circuit that will feed a couple of electric heaters, a few lights and sockets.

I am a qualified electrician, but not a very practiced one (just qualified). and so am checking that I have not made an error that will have my work appearing on a new thread...
 
Stop referring to it as 'work' chaps, it's an offence to the word.
Work implies something useful has been done.

Completely agree, in this case the 'work' as some call it has been detrimental to the overall installation, and is no a dangerous situation. You cannot put this right, t+e shouldnt really be outside anyway, even if it was terminated in a more suitable manner.
 
I thought I'd seen bad workmanship in my time.........bloody hell...No way is he a spark,even a very bad one would do a better job.
I've an apprentice in his third week and I guarantee he would do a better job.Where's the pride gone in your workmanship.It's one of the first things I was thought?
 
Hi Des 56,

I am not registered to do this kind of work in homes with regards to the schemes and Part P.

You don't have to be registered with anyone under Part P, you can self certify your own work.

This clown needs reporting, if you have his details then get buildings control round to look and tell them who he is. There are laws against this behaviour under namely the EWR1989. If he's being paid then he must be held responsible for his work.
 
Good evening, As with everyone else the job is one of the worst I have ever seen. Part P of the builing regs is a legal requirement and states that any electrical work undertaken outside of the equipotential zone of your property, (back garden).must be certificated under the part P scheme. If you don,t you can be prosecuted. If you contact trading standards with those pictures they can prosecute him as he broke the law. You could possibly ask him for all the money back to save him from prosecution.
Regards Jonathan N.I.C.E.I.C. qualifying supervisor.
 
Good evening, As with everyone else the job is one of the worst I have ever seen. Part P of the builing regs is a legal requirement and states that any electrical work undertaken outside of the equipotential zone of your property, (back garden).must be certificated under the part P scheme. If you don,t you can be prosecuted. If you contact trading standards with those pictures they can prosecute him as he broke the law. You could possibly ask him for all the money back to save him from prosecution.
Regards Jonathan N.I.C.E.I.C. qualifying supervisor.
Jonathon I'm sorry mate but you're living in a dream world. Yes the installer has broken the law, yes he should be brought to book but do you honestly think anything will be done?
 
Well this has got to be the worse bit of electrical work i've seen, now i know a lot of you on here don't like the home study sparks but this guys suppose to be time served and i do a better job in my sleep than this job. He wants taping to his job having it re-connected then a bucket of water throwing over him just for good measures

Phil
 
I've seen some shoddy work but this is some of the worst.
The person who done it has obviously not got a clue. But surely they must know electric is dangerous? So therefore they have shown a compete disregard for anyone's safety. They want locking up. It's just as selfish as drink driving!
 
I will give a no money bet to anyone who thinks otherwise
If he is reported,which may or may not be the case

He will not be prosecuted for the standard of work

If I'm wrong,I will eat my cyberspace hat,twice
 

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