JIB Electrotechnical Certification Scheme (ECS) JIB told me I wasn't a spark.....?

[p11jor]

Phoned the j I b up and told them my quals

2330 level 3
2392
2391
17th edition

They told me I was a level 1 trainee.....

 

[Mainman]

As an employer, I find it is very difficult to assess someone who comes to me with all technical qualifications. I have no idea what they can do practically. It is the same for the JIB grading. They need as much information as possible of practical experience. Previous and current employers testimonials and NVQ 3.
Would you be happy for someone to drive if they have just passed their theory test?

 

[cdavies33]

Finish your dinner lads and you'll get the card. Simples!!!

Strange how the only people who slag the JIB off are either Electrical Trainee, mates, improver or 'technicians' from other occupations.

Like I said the JIB are the only ones keeping our industry serious and battling against what must be hundreds and hundreds of training centres.

 

[Swicade]

Only issue i have with the JIB is that from reading many posts it seem's that someone with over 20 years of electrical experience has to do NVQ 3 to be called a sparks now, 20+ yrs ago NVQ just didn't exist to my knowledge.

 

[Adam W]

Lack of NVQ 3, i can never understand why people go sit the 2391 yet completley miss out the 2356 NVQ3 which is easier, must be a cost thing

Because it's a pain in the behind - you have to go around taking pictures of everything like some kind of trainspotter, and you have to cover a variety of different situations, some of which you might not come across on a regular basis.
Taking pictures of your work might be OK in certain situations, sites etc, but inappropriate in others, eg MOD sites, hospitals, schools.

 

[cdavies33]

Only issue i have with the JIB is that from reading many posts it seem's that someone with over 20 years of electrical experience has to do NVQ 3 to be called a sparks now, 20+ yrs ago NVQ just didn't exist to my knowledge.

Your not getting my point!!! If a spark has been working in this industry for 20 years and completed his apprenticeship at his time.... HE WILL BE GRADED AS AN ELECTRICIAN!!! Same for the 60's, 70's and so on. NVQ or not. You complete the recognised electrical apprenticeship at the time and you'll always be a graded spark!!

 

[p11jor]

Or as alot of people do....take photos of others work....which just makes no sence

 

[telectrix]

Your not getting my point!!! If a spark has been working in this industry for 20 years and completed his apprenticeship at his time.... HE WILL BE GRADED AS AN ELECTRICIAN!!! Same for the 60's, 70's and so on. NVQ or not. You complete the recognised electrical apprenticeship at the time and you'll always be a graded spark!!

not so. i obtained HND, Electrical Engineering in 1979. had 30 years exp.JIB classed me as trainee. bloody muppets.

 

[Swicade]

Jebus...with all those '!!!' i get images of me old headmaster stood over me with cane in hand.....*hides*

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[p11jor]

Perfetic.....every single time I've had a electrical question telectrix has always had a answer for it and he's rated a trainee......

Who are the jib to rate you anyway, not higher than the guilds......
Anyone with abit of money behind them could start a scheme, advertise it to sites etc to say blah blah blah

 

[alarm man]

Perfetic.....every single time I've had a electrical question telectrix has always had a answer for it and he's rated a trainee......

Who are the jib to rate you anyway, not higher than the guilds......
Anyone with abit of money behind them could start a scheme, advertise it to sites etc to say blah blah blah

you have to remember the jib was set up to look after its jib member companies and employees,wages training quals etc for electrical contractors,they set the standard for that,if you done an apprenticeship through a jib co you got your card and its benefits,why does suddenly everyone want a jib card,if your self employed or dont work in contracting for jib co's you dont need a jib card,if you want to work for a jib co you might need one.

 

[Swicade]

People are calling for JIB to be the standard again....the present way JIB issue thier cards leaves alot of older sparks (due to not working/trainee for JIB firms) out on thier ear classed only as trainee's.

I'm self employed,did my time with a non JIB firm (not many firms around here are/were JIB)...if i now had to have a JIB card i'd be in the same boat as Teletrix.....Trainee...which is just wrong on so many levels.

 

[cdavies33]

not so. i obtained HND, Electrical Engineering in 1979. had 30 years exp.JIB classed me as trainee. bloody muppets.

No disrectful Tel, but was a HND in 1979 the recognized qualification needed to be a qualified electrician via an apprenticeship? such as the 2360, 2330 etc. This is what I mean!

And I know you know your stuff..... A lot more than me

 

[trev]

My mate Rob is on the dole, can't find his certs(he's moved around a lot following his divorce)and can't afford to replace them, they told him if he can provide 10 years of work references they will consider what grade they will give him. I reckon he'll get something like trainee or labourer, what do you think guys?

 

[sparks1973]

had a chat with Leigh today about similar to this as i am currently doing the NVQ 3....he said it didn`t bother him as he was trading for himself and didn`t see the point in it....he did say though that if he went back onto sites for a company etc...he would get registered with em....

 

[alarm man]

as far as i can remember if he got a job for a jib co and had all his certs they could then if they felt so apply for him by them to be graded as a jib electrcian,not certain if you could be graded as app elec before elec if he didnt do a jib apprenticeship,tho dont quote me on that..