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this thread will go on for quite a while (14 WEEKS), to exams... ive nearly read gn3 for the first time and there is a few things i dont fully understand but im sure i will for when the time comes from help from you guys/dudes/punks who know just a little to much.
 
a ring final circuit continuity test revealed incorrect polarity on three socket outlets

socket L/N L/CPC
A open circuit correct

B correct open circuit

c open circuit open circuit

state wheather or not the reading for each socket are satisfactory and indicate which conductors have reversed polarity....

does this sound like im reading the question right... jeeees.... any pointers/help out there for a monkey tryin to worm his way intot the electrical world
 
what is the significance of the value obtained and recorded from step 3 of continuity of ring final circuit conductor test

id say is part of you earth fault loop impedance value and has to be below a set value.. and can calculate voltdrop from this reading for the circuit..

maybe im saying this all wrong so if i am share you cool , il go cheeers

Step three is measuring the resistance of the figure 8 L-E loop. The value obtained is compared to the (r1+r2/4) result and should be within 0.05 ohms of this value.

The significance of the value obtained and recorded is that this value is your R1+R2 used in Ze+(R1+R2) for determining your Zs, earth fault loop impedance, for the circuit, so that you can ensure that the disconnection times for the protective device are met.

a ring final circuit continuity test revealed incorrect polarity on three socket outlets

socket L/N L/CPC
A open circuit correct

B correct open circuit

c open circuit open circuit

state wheather or not the reading for each socket are satisfactory and indicate which conductors have reversed polarity....

does this sound like im reading the question right... jeeees.... any pointers/help out there for a monkey tryin to worm his way intot the electrical world

Socket
L/N continuity
L/CPC continuity
Reversed polarity
A
open circuit
correct
Line CPC reversed
B
correct
open circuit
Line Neutral reversed
c
open circuit
open circuit
Neutral CPC reversed

All these results are not satisfactory, as they should all be correct.

For all sockets, because both tests involve the Line conductor and you know that reversed polarity exists, if there is a "correct" reading this must be because it is between these two conductors that the reversed polarity has occurred.
For socket C both readings are wrong and so the fault cannot involve the Line conductor, therefore it is a N/CPC reverse.

Sorry is this is not clear it is very difficult to describe.
This made me have to think, not part of the plan!
 
Hi just looking through posts and i am taking my 2391 (Written) again on 09/02/12 Thursday doing all the revision i can and looking to remember or should i say forget what i did wrong in Oct 22 last year.

I got baffled and new i had not got a good mark to pass, just thinking i have a better chance and feel more confident this time round..

Any one with a fail like my self just go for it again.

Thanks to the posts by people (members) on this forum i hold a better and full prospective on the testing side apart from doing it at work as a one off at our new factory with a 2391 holder.

Cheers to all and fingers crossed..

Ian.
 
2391-301 Written Exam Paper February 2012


Section A – All questions carry equal marks. Answer all questions. Show all calculations.



1 State three documents on which the value of prospective fault current (PFC) should be recorded.


2 State three items of information that should be made available to a person carrying out an initial verification of an electrical installation.


3 A new circuit is to be installed in a small factory. State one

a) statutory document that the installer must comply with

b) non statutory document that the installer should comply with

c) non statutory document which may need to be referred to during the initial verification.


4 A periodic inspection and test is to be carried out on a large commercial unit. State.

a) what must be agreed with the client

b) when the agreement in a) should take place


5 State three different practical situations that may require the sense of sight during the initial inspection of a steel trunking containment system.


6 State three GS38 requirements which apply to test probe leads.


7 State the

a) test instrument that would be used to carry for a continuity of a main protective bonding conductor

b) one reason for selecting the test instrument in a) above

c) the purpose of the conductor in a) above


8 State, in the correct sequence, the first three tests to be carried on completion of a newly installed lighting circuit.


9 A test is carried out on a lighting circuit to obtain R1+R2. Explain briefly the purpose of this test.


10 State the effect each of the following would have on the measured insulation resistance of a conductor.

a) decrease in length

b) decrease in CSA

c) decrease in temperature


11 State the effect each of the following would have on the measured insulation resistance of a conductor.

a) increase in length

b) increase in CSA

c) increase in temperature


12 State the minimum acceptable insulation resistance test values for each of the following circuits, supplying equipment at

a) 38V ac

b) 135V ac

c) 400V ac


13 State three reasons for conducting a polarity test on a newly installed lighting circuit

14 State the level of protection provided by equipment constructed to

a) IP4X

b) IPX4

c) IP2X


15 An earth electrode resistance test has been carried out, and the following results were obtained: 128Ohms, 120Ohms and 134Ohms. Determine the value of RA to be recorded on the certificate. Show all calculations.



16 BS 7671 requires fuses to be placed in the line conductor. Briefly explain the outcome if a fuse is placed in the neutral conductor only and the fuse then operates under overload conditions.


17 State, in which of the public distribution systems, each of the following components would be found.

a) earthed metallic sheath

b) PEN conductor

c) installation earth electrode


18 State, specifically, from the formula Zs=Ze+(R1+R2), what is represented by

a) R1

b) Ze

c) Zs


19 A 200mA general purpose RCD to BSEN 61008 is to be tested to ensure it operates within specification. State the

a) test instrument to be used

b) the maximum test current to be applied during the test

c) the maximum acceptable tripping time during the test in b) above


20 A prospective fault current test is to be carried out on a single phase supply. State

a) the two tests which are to be undertaken

b) which value from a) above will be recorded as the PFC

Questions 21-26 to follow shortly once typed up........
 
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2391-301 Written Exam Paper February 2012


Section B – Questions 21-26 refer to the following scenario. Answer all questions. All questions carry equal marks. Show all calculations.

The 400/240V three-phase, four-wire electrical installation within a three year old small industrial unit, forms part of a TN-S system and is to be inspected and tested during normal working hours.



The unit has a new tenant who requires an additional lighting circuit in the office area. The details of the protective devices utilised within the metal-clad TP&N distribution board are shown on Figure 1, attached.



The containment system within the workshop is surface mounted steel conduit and trunking. The office containment system is surface mounted PVC conduit and trunking.


All wiring is thermoplastic insulated single-core cables with copper conductors. The new lighting circuit is to be wired using the same installation method as the existing office.



The outside lighting circuits are controlled by a photo electric cell mounted on the roof of the installation.



21 State
a) the types of inspection and test that are required on completion of all of the works.
b) the documents that must be completed following this inspection and test.
c) two statutory documents that are relevant to the inspection and testing process
d) the title given in law to the inspector whilst carrying out the inspection
e) the legal status of the inspector
f) three items of information that must be available to the inspector which may be obtained from the DNO


22 a) identify two specific items on a new containment system which are to be inspected, using the sense of touch, before the cables are installed, stating what is being checked for in each case
b) identify three items on the existing containment system which are to be inspected using the sense of sight stating what is being checked for in each case


23 The existing ring final circuit in the workshop area is to be inspected. All socket outlets are connected correctly to the circuit. Step 1 of the test process produced the following results: Line loop 0.68Ohms, neutral loop 0.70Ohms and cpc loop 1.15Ohms.
a) state one possible reason why the cpc value is higher than the live conductors
b) calculate the expected measured values for steps 2 & 3 of the test
c) state all items that would be recorded following the successful completion of the test
d) under what circumstances would the ring final circuit continuity test not be required during the inspection and test
e) for polarity to be confirmed, what action is required if the tests have taken place at the terminals of the socket outlet and not from the socket fronts?


24 An insulation resistance test is to be carried out on the outside security lights. Describe the procedure for this test.
25 Figure 1, attached, shows the results from a previous inspection and test. State, using the information in Figure 1 attached
a) seven items which may require special consideration excluding equipment vulnerable to testing
b) the reasons why the items given in a) above are of concern
d) whether the equipment vulnerable to testing information is correct


26 Describe, with the aid of a fully labelled diagram, the earth fault loop impedance part for the new lighting circuit
 

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