just started the 2391

i=p/u · Jan 11, 2012

this thread will go on for quite a while (14 WEEKS), to exams... ive nearly read gn3 for the first time and there is a few things i dont fully understand but im sure i will for when the time comes from help from you guys/dudes/punks who know just a little to much.

1Justin · Jan 12, 2012

Hi Crazy,

Well I did 2382 and the college has promised the 2395 because they weren't allowed to teach 2391 any more. Last I heard it is still on. If so, this will be one of the first. Even the lecturer didn't know the content last December. Perhaps we'll get 2391 after all.

Whatever, I dropped you a line re the book if it's going (and if it's in one piece!)

Rgds

highspark · Jan 12, 2012

So basically us 17th Edition, 2391, 2356, 2330 sparks of the naughties are now deemed as older sparks with outdated quals lol. I like the fact its all changing, it for me makes the older quals more special.

CrazyScozzese · Jan 12, 2012

And the 2396, which is the 2391-20 Design and Verification, is now a level 4 award. Was 3.

SPARTYKUS · Jan 12, 2012

fingerbuster said:
I just passed my 2391. The exam itself follows a standard formula. It took me two attempts to get it.

Don't just think memorising GN3 will do it - it'll help, yes, but the buggers that write the questions are - as one would expect - savvy to this theory; and, they compose the questions cryptically to ensure that the examinee has to think.

Not easy.

NB* ETS in Aston Birmingham will definitely get you through though.

They're good.

Posh Liverpool... West Derby????

parker56 · Jan 12, 2012

Did mine over 4 weeks, had a great time,and passed first time. But did lots of old papers & learnt a new language think they call it sparks.

i=p/u · Jan 13, 2012

well i have the exam for sucess book already as was cheaper to buy 3 books from amazon, which i wanted anyway.... in was told they have extended the 2391 now for another while......

i had a look at the earth electrode testing, seems complicaated to explain, but im sure il get there .. try and set up a rig or something..

chelwood · Jan 13, 2012

Take the day off work when you have exam.Personally i think by the time you have been up since dawn and done a days work you are in no shape to sit an exam of this nature

frank3323 · Jan 13, 2012

electrode testing is as simple as the diagram in gn3 its just the sequence and the names of the test spikes etc that people fall down on if its not something they do very often or ever! if u know a spark with a fluke 1653 multi u can borrow they can do electrode testing and u can get electrode lead and test spikes for about 40 quid. (or use some 2.5 wrapped around the leads or on crock clips 15m and 30m if u just want to give it a go) once you have done it once, like everyhing it makes sense.

SPARTYKUS · Jan 13, 2012

chelwood said:
Take the day off work when you have exam.Personally i think by the time you have been up since dawn and done a days work you are in no shape to sit an exam of this nature

aside from the fact that there might be a bit of stomach churning and sphincter twitching :nonod:

efcsnakes · Jan 14, 2012

To any one taking the 2391 it's not as difficult as others make it out to be. put the hours in and you will pass. I put off doing it for a couple of years because of people i know who had passed telling me how hard the exam was. After taking the exam for the first time in OCT 11 and passing I now realise it was just people trying to big up the fact they had passed it. what i will say is it's too much to take in over 5 days so don't even try it, you will know on the night of the exam if your ready because you won't be one of the loons in the canteen frantically going through their notes(if you don't know it by then your not going to learn it the 15 mins before the exam). I went to "IN Phase training" in Liverpool and we had 9 people out of 13 pass in our class because the training was excellent but also everyone revised.

One more thing, on section B of the exam(the scenario) our tutor gave us a great bit of advice, don't waste time writ
ing 6 small essays. just bullet point the main bits of info. the exam only took me 1 hr 10 mins to complete with this great bit of advice, plenty of time to check your answers at the end...

Good luck to all

SPARTYKUS · Jan 14, 2012

Any exam appears easier....when you've passed it

efcsnakes · Jan 14, 2012

SPARTYKUS said:
Any exam appears easier....when you've passed it

Totally agree, what i don't get is people who have passed making out it is the most difficult exam ever!

GLENNSPARK · Jan 14, 2012

right then.....as far as i know theres 3 guys down`t C&G that make up these exam papers......one of ems got a liking for earth paths n fault paths....you ALWAYS get questions about loop n all that according to the lecturer i had.......another one of em is into terminology and how to perform tests n all that....so you need to be fully conversant with stuff like r1...r2...rn and R1 and R2 n all that lot and the max value for an R2.....another one is your PFC on a 3 phase system.....they may ask you stuff about testing each phase to earth for PFC....you dont......phase-neutral PFC is always higher.....so if using seperate meters...that cant test phase to phase ...you take the highest phase to neutral...and double it....some of em are like trick questions......
What i did before describing how to perform continuity testing on a ring final circuit was i put THIS IS A DEAD TEST in bold capitals at the top of the page so as to leave em in no doubt as to you knowing this.....and always mentioned to ask permission from THE PERSON ORDERING THE TEST OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES...before undertaking any work (inspecting and testing in this case)....and dont neglect to mention about doing a safe isolation before undertaking dead testing and that a safe iso is done using an APPROVED VOLTAGE INDICATOR TO GS38....together with a known source of supply such as a proving unit.......these are all things you are likely to be asked during this exam.....stay alert....

jeremy · Jan 14, 2012

I hadn't done a written exam of this nature for 25 years, one of the problems I had was hand cramp. It seemed the most difficult exam at the time, though I passed it but didn't pass A level geography (or maths or physics!) probably just a more realistic view on what I may know or not and the consequences of passing (or not)