Kitchen wiring

[telectrix]

local isolation is soooo simple.

 

[markc123]

correct me if my eyesights wrong tel but isn't that plug on the right you've put up ilegal? tut

 

[Silly Sausage]

I'd venture to suggest you are over complicating matters...

And today's 'Understatement of the Day' Award goes to...^^^

 

[Stroppy]

correct me if my eyesights wrong tel but isn't that plug on the right you've put up ilegal? tut

Walsall guage plug, I believe. Allegedly still used in the BBC, or was it London Underground?

Edit: Ah! Both. How come I can remember useless crap like that, but important stuff floats out of my brain in less than 10 minutes?

To the original question: Grid plate in a boarded-out cupboard shelf, with DP switches and their associated fuses. Nice and accessible for emergency isolation, can't be obscured by clutter (unless you store single Ryvitas on edge), and out of sight not cluttering up your lovely glass or granite splashback. Oh, and unswitched sockets for the appliances. Some may bring up fuse discrimination, but in reality how often does the fuse in your washing machine blow, and anyway you only have two to check.

 

[markc123]

i was going by the fact that the live and neutral haven't got the earth straps around them lol i was being picky

 

[vjsmarwick]

I am struggling to get to grips with the amount of guys saying unswitched socket behind appliances if your going to have a socket there what does it matter if its switched or not ? Who would switch it off the mice ? The problem I see with the idea is having a fuse there stuck behind a built in dishwasher or built in washing machine ! I hard wire them with the 13A switched fuse above the work top.

 

[MDJ]

Nothing wrong with a spur above the worktop, and nothing wrong with a switched socket below the unit, but is a switched socket needed if there is a isolating device for it locally? No worries IMO.

 

[Des 56]

I always find the " I don't like the look of switches above the worktop" complaints laughable

A kitchen is a functional room,it's supposed to look like a kitchen,just imagine,cookers could be next,why would anyone dream of having one of those gahstly things in the showcase kitchen,absolutely horrendous ,it will never do

Maybe bedrooms could then be the next target,Beds hidden behind teak cupboards,just in case they get seen and spoil the illusion of the room being a non bedroom

 

[MDJ]

I love a nice grid myself with marked 20 amp switches saying what they do, I like to put the grid on a 20 amp ring main supply for the appliances and have general sockets (ie toaster/microwave liquidizer)on a seperate ring, there are some lovely looking flush plates today which are very nice.

 

[i=p/u]

And have the fuses built in mdj any links to what I'm visualising

 

[MDJ]

ah yes you can have fuses which fit in there as well, but if using the switches to control sockets no need to fuse down on the 20 amp ring, the switches are 20 amp and the plug tops have the fuses in them, but you can add the fuses to the grid if you like, lots of makes do the grids now, you can have vertually any label you like engraved in the switches.

 

[MDJ]

the list is almost endless, different switches, fuses neons, all different colours etc GridSwitch 20A 1W Double Pole Cooker Hood

 

[Guest55]

I love a nice grid myself with marked 20 amp switches saying what they do, I like to put the grid on a 20 amp ring main supply for the appliances and have general sockets (ie toaster/microwave liquidizer)on a seperate ring, there are some lovely looking flush plates today which are very nice.

theres always 1 flash bast**d.
bet you were the first kid in your class to get puma trainers as well.
;-)

 

[shocking_eg]

Why 20a ring MDJ ?
Couldn't you just run a 20a radial ? Don't see what your gaining with the ring situation ?

 

[MDJ]

yeah you could do a radial, we just added rings, I wouldn't like the idea of a single 2.5 holding the load of several appliances even if there is only a 20 amp back up and to be fair the appliances probably wouldn't draw 20 amps, but its just the way we used to do them, just our choice and design.