Latest on the court challenge!!!

[mdovey]

Why do you think so many of us are complaining about being in limbo - personally I think it's unethical to sell pv at the minute, but you wouldn't be alone.....

Firstly, I'm a customer not a supplier, so you'll have to take my opinion in that light.

I would suggest being honest with the customer. Point out that to the best of your knowledge the FIT will be 21p. Point them at the newsletter from Greg Barker which seems to confirm this (http://www.electriciansforums.net/p...eholders-12th-december-2011-a.html#post425099). However, admit that until the result of the consultation is published you cannot offer any guarantees.

If they ask about the court case, point out that this may mean that some installations post 12 December may qualify for a higher rate but this is not certain, and even if the cut off date was changed there is no guarantee that their installation would qualify.

Include (in large print) an acknowledgement from the customer that you've given advice to the best of your ability but that no guarantees can be made about the tariff due to the current circumstances and that the customer understands the risks.

You may lose a few sales (or get people deferring), but I think most customers would respect this.

Oh, and get it in writing beforehand that REA/MCS are happy with the above process, so that you are covered!

 

[SRE]

REAL have already confirmed that sales between now and confirmation of the rate could be perceived as mis-selling. It's not the higher rate we're worried about it's the lower rate. If you're expecting to get a payback of 11 - 12 years and it suddenly becomes 18 years I doubt if you'd be very happy.

Greg Barker hasn't confirmed anything and the court ruling this week has made things even more uncertain. Give the extent of his understanding of the industry the only thing that is highly certain is that the situation is highly uncertain. There's nothing to stop the government using emergency powers to stop everything because the budget is fully allocated - unlikely, but it could happen. That makes your installation a 20 - 25 year payback period if you're lucky.

As a customer I don't understand the rush with so much uncertaintity. As installers we're desperate to get going again after Christmas but don't want to sell our customers products that don't do what they say on the tin and until we know what the tin says - as installers we're all in limbo.

My advice would be to wait at least until 4th January to see if the government appeals and what the implications of that would be.

 

[Eco Deal]

so the 4th of Jan is now the next chapter in this messed up fairy tale !!!!!

I wonder if it ends that we all live happy ever after!!!!!

Hmmmm

 

[finchy]

Ok Chaps - Im going to sign off this Forum until January ! Wish you all a merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Lets hope we have an industry in 2012 !

As for Greg Barker and all at the DECC I hope they get a visit from the Ghost of Solar PV !!!

 

[SRE]

Ok Chaps - Im going to sign off this Forum until January ! Wish you all a merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Lets hope we have an industry in 2012 !

Me too - I'm getting more dperessed every time I read it!

Family time til the New Year

 

[Eco Deal]

Merry christmas and and happy new year

 

[SibertSolar]

Merry Xmas one and all! Let's do it all again in the New Year......

 

[edexlab]

These politicians constantly amaze me , I've just watched the two links and I think he's an absolute idiot, floundering about trying to save his own job instead of admitting he messed up ,resigning and moving to a faraway place

In one breath he's saying its all Labour and Ed Millibands fault for creating a flawed scheme ,he then admits they knew about it from day one as they had argued in the commons
”unfortunately labour messed up the budget controls” yet he has clearly shown that they have little concept of running this type of scheme as they did not properly review the tarriff when they came into power then went on to allow a ”flawed scheme” to run

At the last election I know of a lot of people who didn’t vote and I think I’ll be joining them as the more I see of politicians the harder it is to find even one, who you could really say you could trust to represent you properly or use a bit of real common sense instead of the type that seems to be taught at Eton/oxbridge
from one bunch of incompetent idiots to another

They had a good well thought out, shown to be working blueprint to follow, handed to them on a plate by the Germans and still managed to mess it up

Mcs renewables said that he might stand for a seat as an independent Green I can think of several contributors to this forum who would definitely have more chance of getting my vote than the usual suspects having actually lived in the real world , maybe we ought to look at setting up the Solar party! And in keeping with most Governments look after ourselves first

Also would like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a more certain New Year!

 

[SibertSolar]

A Solar Party - excellent idea, I'm in!

 

[Graeme Harrold]

I too await the Jan ruling, so till then Nadolig Llawen .................

 

[Markc]

REAL have already confirmed that sales between now and confirmation of the rate could be perceived as mis-selling. It's not the higher rate we're worried about it's the lower rate.

Funniest statement I have seen!

I can CONFIRM I don't give a stuff what REAL like to THINK or PERCEIVE.

I say, "Walk a mile in my shoes"............ then.......................(they will be a mile away form me with my shoes!)

Merry Christmas everyone. Have a good one!

 

[pogson6]

jeeze im off snowboarding, here's to feb 2012! lol

 

[Coleman]

Have a good one everyone!!! Till next year when all the madness starts again!! : - /

 

[infinity]

jeeze im off snowboarding, here's to feb 2012! lol

Where to? im off to Tignes, most snow they had in 30yrs have a good one!

 

[Somecamel]

Dependant on the Government losing the Appeal which seems likely- Higher Feed-in Tariff rate now likely to remain until April > Opinion > Opinion | Click Green

Here we go again...