Live Working

[brookster]

I just put 'never' in the test

 

[bigbaddave]

hahaha, ***t

yeah???????

 

[Silly Sausage]

Rest in peace. I will join.

I've got plenty of old climbing rope and I'm pretty useful on the woodwork front.

It's ridiculous, how could you possibly operate as an electrical tech eng etc without measuring live gear!
Nonsense!!!

 

[SirKit Breaker]

EAWR 1989. "It is not acceptable to work live, unless it is unreasonable to work dead", or words to that effect. So work that one out!

Cheers...........Howard

 

[shanky887614]

whats the problem with working live?

just get out your long nose pliers and put them tails in/away


as long as your doing it safe there is no problem, no law against it other than the usual risk assessment and doing it as a last resort

 

[TF and the wire]

As an electrician of 40 years standing, live working to me is actually touching a live part. I would never do this on anything above 110v ac. Not sure of any regs on this, just my own common sense. I know that some trades such as cable jointers have to, but they have the correct tools and training. I don't.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, we had a H&S officer, or Hi-Viz ----er as I call them, who suggested that "working on live equipment" meant even opening a control cabinet and we should complete a permit to work and risk assessment form EVERY time we did that. Imagine that in a 12 hour shift at a large factory. It wasn't long before he looked something else up on the internet and it became flavour of the month-interlock switches, light barriers, stored energy etc......

Sorry if I sound cynical.

 

[44ALLAN]

As an electrician of 40 years standing, live working to me is actually touching a live part. I would never do this on anything above 110v ac.

Just in from the pub and took a quick look before bed and saw that statement.
Just to be clear mate...........are you actually saying that you work on and touch 110volt live conductors?

 

[Fast&Rough]

Everyone should be able to work live , if your stupid enough to hurt yourself then you should feel bad/dead and if you start ****ing yourself even contemplating working live well you should not be allowed outside yourself

 

[Thefailsafe2012]

As an apprentice we were trained for live working. I wonder how many here, have drilled live LV bus bars on a 800A sub switchboard, to accommodate wiring to a new externally mounted Breaker?? How times change!!! ....lol!!

I got sweaty after reading that!

 

[shanky887614]

I got sweaty after reading that!

why?
as long as what he is in contact with has no potential voltage then its safe

 

[Thefailsafe2012]

Well, still wouldn't want to slip on the old drill eh? You done this sorta thing as well shanky?

 

[Engineer54]

Preparation is the key to safety here, and can take as much, or even more time than actually doing the job itself!!
The main objective is to eliminate or to reduce any potential dangers as far as possible.

The drill bits used by the way were special short drills (no longer than an inch or so) that produced niblets rather than a long stream of drilled material and were ...sharp!! lol!! The drill being connected to the bar being drilled, etc etc. The bus bars above and below were protected with insulating material within the area of work, rubber mats gloves eye/face protection and over shoes were in place, ... And most importantly, a big guy with a length of wood standing by!! lol!!

 

[shanky887614]

Well, still wouldn't want to slip on the old drill eh? You done this sorta thing as well shanky?

no, im too young but i understand the basic principle behind it.

frankly i would enlist advice/help from guys like yourself that know the best way to do it.


for a start with things like this its best to ask as i wasnt aware you could get these special drill bits and if i did attempt something like this with the wrong/not good enough equipement im creating unessicary risk's

 

[Engineer54]

no, im too young but i understand the basic principle behind it.

frankly i would enlist advice/help from guys like yourself that know the best way to do it.


for a start with things like this its best to ask as i wasnt aware you could get these special drill bits and if i did attempt something like this with the wrong/not good enough equipement im creating unessicary risk's

Wouldn't call them particularly special, perhaps that was the wrong description on my part to give them. Drill bits have always been available in different length sizes, to suit different applications. You could for instance use a standard sized drill bit and use a grub screw secured depth stop, it will do the job just as well!! lol!!

 

[Knobhead]

The question is, would you do it now?