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Yeah just the tenant hadn't reported it, I just noticed it as we got in and thought it would be safer just to fix it up even if 20/30mins later it was getting stripped out
 
I still think there is some info missing here.

OP do you think it is a good thing discussing this on a publuc forum? As it only take one person from your old company to read this and get a easy counter argument.
 
if what you say is true and you have been on the firm ie employed on the cards for 4 years then take them to an industrial tribunal for unfair dismissal
your company pocedure allows for instant dismissal for gross misconduct but in this case I would go to tribunal
 
if what you say is true and you have been on the firm ie employed on the cards for 4 years then take them to an industrial tribunal for unfair dismissal
your company pocedure allows for instant dismissal for gross misconduct but in this case I would go to tribunal

The must be something else has happen which we are not being told about otherwise the company will be taken to the cleaners should it get to a tribunal.
 
Mate, sorry you’ve lost your job, it must have been a real hammer blow after 4 years
Good you have found work, It takes the sting out of the thing.

Given that much of the training by employers is a box ticking / arse covering exercise. I find it a bit weird, they’d let you skip training sessions.

I’m working as an electrician’s mate and I know what it says in the EWR regarding working live.

How would you go about proving it would be unreasonable to lock off and test to make sure it’s dead.

What makes your case more serious is that you weren’t taking any risk yourself, you were telling someone else to do it.

Was your dismissal unfair ?
Get legal advice from a solicitor specialising in employment law. You could get this from the CAB
The CAB has changed a little bit, solicitors will give you free advice, the pay-back for them is; leads for fee paid work. It’s a little bit like ambulance chasing.

To get credible advice provide the following.

Suspension notice, and Invitation to the investigation meeting.
Notes/recordings, and Outcome letter from the above meeting.
Invitation to disciplinary meeting.
Notes/recordings from the disciplinary meeting.
Written Outcome of the disciplinary meeting.
Appeal meeting invitation, Notes/recordings and appeal outcome letter.

Any evidence your ex employer produced against you with , eg not hearsay - hard evidence.

A word of caution, outcomes of employment tribunals will come into the wider public domain.
You must decide if that would help you, with the 4 year hole in your CV and moving on.
 
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What makes your case more serious is that you weren’t taking any risk yourself, you were telling someone else to do it.

I am absolutely bewildered that people working with electricity equate the action described with risk
Yes there may be a procedure for a --- covering exercise or a box ticking jaunt to satisfy a H+S administrator,but risk?
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What makes your case more serious is that you weren’t taking any risk yourself, you were telling someone else to do it.
Please explain exactly where the risk was.
The accessory had one bolt in it which, from what I can make out was holding it back reasonably securely. As a temporary measure the OP decided to put another one in to hold it back properly. Anyone would have had to try really, really hard to get hold of any live parts.
Seems to me like they wanted rid of him and used this as the excuse.
 
Please explain exactly where the risk was.
The accessory had one bolt in it which, from what I can make out was holding it back reasonably securely. As a temporary measure the OP decided to put another one in to hold it back properly. Anyone would have had to try really, really hard to get hold of any live parts.
Seems to me like they wanted rid of him and used this as the excuse.
he was asked to put the bolt into an already earthed fascia plate so as soon as it touched the plate before it got anywhere near live cables it was earthed so perfectly safe.

electricity is like a plumber it takes the easiest route possible and **** everyone else
 

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