Meter Tails 16mm 0r 25mm

[chocolate]

I was changing meter tails between service head and meter when bloke from elec board came around to read the meter. Had put new tails in between head and meter, then meter to new isolator, but the main fuse was still out. The bloke didn't seem to care. Asked me to put the fuse in for a second in order to read the digital meter, then was quite happy for me to remove it again. Didn't ask at all about broken seals. Maybe i was very lucky.

 

[Risteard]

been doing it live for yonks and never had a problem yet.

Then you are in breach of the Electricity at Work Regulations.

 

[flukey]

Then you are in breach of the Electricity at Work Regulations.

well said risteard

 

[Des 56]

I was changing meter tails between service head and meter when bloke from elec board came around to read the meter. Had put new tails in between head and meter, then meter to new isolator, but the main fuse was still out. The bloke didn't seem to care. Asked me to put the fuse in for a second in order to read the digital meter, then was quite happy for me to remove it again. Didn't ask at all about broken seals. Maybe i was very lucky.

Why would you want to renew/upgrade the supply networks equipment
Better it cost them than you
Also its not very common to do so,they could prosecute you theoretically

Working live has never bothered me,but I would not encourage anybody to do so
We break the law when we do so.but I believe in individual responsibility and being careful whilst confident in carrying it out



Thats my excuse and Im sticking to it

 

[Mark2009]

Peter if you are in any dout as to weather to remove the suppliers cut out. dont be. Basicly the electricity at work act says that every installation has to be provided with a means of isolation for safe working. So if the supllier has provided a means of isolation ie a swich or the meter with a built in isolator (not designed to be switch under load) then all is fine but if they have only provided a cut out and meter then they can not argue why you have cut their seal and removed the fuse. what do they expect you to change the tails LIVE!?????
Hope this helps
Regards
AJ

Hi
If you change a fuse board do you have to change the tails.

Thanks

Mark

 

[Mac]

Hi
If you change a fuse board do you have to change the tails.

Thanks

Mark

If you change the CU,you should upgrade the tails to 25mm,only from the meter to the CU.

 

[ezzzekiel]

fit a isolator take existing tails and feed into top of isolator and run new 25mm from bottom to db that way if anything needs upgrading its dno side and you havent broke seal and gone inside meter.

 

[Mark2009]

If you change the CU,you should upgrade the tails to 25mm,only from the meter to the CU.

Hi
But on the advice of the NIC you cannot do this as this would mean breaking the LEB Clip which the NIC say you should not do.

Thanks

Mark

Hi
But on the advice of the NIC you cannot do this as this would mean breaking the LEB Clip which the NIC say you should not do.

Thanks

Mark

Hi
Can anyone tell me the best pace to buy a 17th Edition C/B

Thanks

Mark

fit a isolator take existing tails and feed into top of isolator and run new 25mm from bottom to db that way if anything needs upgrading its dno side and you havent broke seal and gone inside meter.

Hi
But we are defeating the object 16mm to 25mm as long as i upgrade to the same size board the old tails should be fine.

Thanks

Mark

 

[flukey]

Hi
But we are defeating the object 16mm to 25mm as long as i upgrade to the same size board the old tails should be fine.

Thanks

Mark

thats not you problem. your tails should be 25mm. dno can upgrade from meter so you dont have to break their seal. easiest option is as described

 

[Mark2009]

thats not you problem. your tails should be 25mm. dno can upgrade from meter so you dont have to break their seal. easiest option is as described

Hi
Could you explain how.

Thanks

Mark

 

[flukey]

exactly how ezze said. existing tails into isolator, new tails out to new cu

 

[Mac]

exactly how ezze said. existing tails into isolator, new tails out to new cu

If you do it that way then the existing tails will be live unless you CUT the seal on the cut out

 

[flukey]

If you do it that way then the existing tails will be live unless you CUT the seal on the cut out

quite right mac, ive already said i cut fuse seal, dont cut meter ones though so my tails would be dead
would never condone working live for any reason, very bad practice

 

[Mac]

Sorry mate,might be a thick,why would you cut the seal at the cut out and install an isolator.Should that not be down to the DNO.If you cut the seal on the cut out,why not the meter and just replace the tails from there.

 

[flukey]

Sorry mate,might be a thick,why would you cut the seal at the cut out and install an isolator.Should that not be down to the DNO.If you cut the seal on the cut out,why not the meter and just replace the tails from there.

most dno will believe there was no seal on the cut out, they dont when its the meter but then you should know that i leave meter alone and fit either a henley block or isolator so my installation conforms without having the hassle of getting dno to remove their seals then they can come at their leisure to connect into THEIR meter