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Slip Ring or Wound Rotor Motors
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I’ve had a love / hate relationship with these motors for years. Maintenance of the brush-gear is a pain to any maintenance department. Overlook or ignore it and it comes back and bites you. Excessive carbon dust can cause flashover on start up. On initial start up the voltage on the rings is at it’s maximum (some motors I’ve worked on could have up to 3KV between them). Carbon dust will find it’s way in to any little crevice, let it build up enough and you can expect an explosion. The first picture shows a basic set up, the left side shows a “standard” brush box, the right a constant force box. The second picture shows a practical set up. The constant force box uses a spring similar to the ones used for cable earthing but in this case they are trying to un-coil.
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The slip ring or wound rotor motor is an induction machine where the rotor comprises a set of coils that are terminated in sliprings to which external impedances can be connected. The stator is the same as is used with a standard squirrel cage motor.
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By changing the impedance connected to the rotor circuit, the speed/current and speed/torque curves can be altered.
The slip ring motor is used primarily to start a high inertia load or a load that requires a very high starting torque across the full speed range. By correctly selecting the resistors used in the secondary resistance or slip ring starter, the motor is able to produce maximum torque at a relatively low current from zero speed to full speed. A secondary use of the slip ring motor, is to provide a means of speed control. Because the torque curve of the motor is effectively modified by the resistance connected to the rotor circuit, the speed of the motor can be altered. Increasing the value of resistance on the rotor circuit will move the speed of maximum torque down. If the resistance connected to the rotor is increased beyond the point where the maximum torque occurs at zero speed, the torque will be further reduced.
When used with a load that has a torque curve that increases with speed, the motor will operate at the speed where the torque developed by the motor is equal to the load torque. Reducing the lad will cause the motor to speed up, and increasing the load will cause the motor to slow down until the load and motor torque are equal. Operated in this manner, the slip losses are dissipated in the secondary resistors and can be very significant. The speed regulation is also very poor.
Motor Characteristics.
The Slip Ring motor has two distinctly separate parts, the stator and the rotor. The stator circuit is rated as with a standard squirrel cage motor and the rotor is rated in frame voltage and short circuit current. The frame voltage is the open circuit voltage when the rotor is not rotating and gives a measure of the turns ratio between the rotor and the stator. The short circuit current is the current flowing when the motor is operating at full speed with the slip rings (rotor) shorted and full load is applied to the motor shaft.
Secondary Resistance Starters.
The secondary resistance starter comprises a contactor to switch the stator and a series of resistors that are applied to the rotor circuit and gradually reduced in value as the motor accelerates to full speed. The rotor would normally be shorted out once the motor is at full speed. The resistor values are selected to provide the torque profile required and are sized to dissipate the slip power during start. The secondary resistors can be metallic resistors such as wound resistors, plate resistors or cast resistors.
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Or they can be liquid resistors made up of saline solution or caustic soda or similar, provided there is sufficient thermal mass to absorb the total slip loss during start.
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I worked on the same type of liquid starter shown in the photograph. They were obsolete and costing a fortune to have final contacts made for them. £2500 for a set of contacts was a bit OTT, so I came up with this idea, standard Telemecanique 315A contactors working at 1.7X their normal rated voltage. The final contact in the original design were slow making so at 1250A they didn’t last long, with my set up the contacts were high speed and so didn’t get eroded. The final load current dropped from 400A+ to 150A @11KV.
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To select the values of the resistors, you need to know the frame voltage and the short circuit current. The maximum torque occurs approximately at the point where the rotor reactance equals the termination resistance. The final stage of the resistance should always be designed for a maximum torque close to full speed to prevent a very large step in current when shorting the final stage of resistance. If a single stage was used and the maximum torque occurred at 50% speed, then motor may accelerate to 60% speed, depending on the load. If the rotor was shorted at this speed, the motor would draw a very high current (typically around 1400% FLC) and produce very little torque, and would most probably stall!
High Inertia Loads
Slip ring motors are commonly used on high inertia loads because of their superior start efficiencies and their ability to withstand the inertia of the loads
When a load is started, the full speed kinetic energy of that load is dissipated in the rotor circuit. With a standard cage type induction motor, there only some motors that can be used on high inertia loads. Most will suffer rotor damage due to the power dissipated by the rotor. With the slip ring motor, the secondary resistors can be selected to provide the optimum torque curves and they can be sized to withstand the load energy without failure.
Starting a high inertia load with a standard cage motor would require between 400% and 550% start current for up to 60 seconds. Starting the same machine with a wound rotor motor (slip ring motor) would require around 200% current for around 20 seconds. A much more efficient solution.
Shorting the rings out on a slip ring motor with a high inertia load is not an option as the load energy must be dissipated in the rotor winding during start. This will cause insulation failure in the rotor circuit.
Now this is my idea of a resonable sized motor
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I’ve had a love / hate relationship with these motors for years. Maintenance of the brush-gear is a pain to any maintenance department. Overlook or ignore it and it comes back and bites you. Excessive carbon dust can cause flashover on start up. On initial start up the voltage on the rings is at it’s maximum (some motors I’ve worked on could have up to 3KV between them). Carbon dust will find it’s way in to any little crevice, let it build up enough and you can expect an explosion. The first picture shows a basic set up, the left side shows a “standard” brush box, the right a constant force box. The second picture shows a practical set up. The constant force box uses a spring similar to the ones used for cable earthing but in this case they are trying to un-coil.
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The slip ring or wound rotor motor is an induction machine where the rotor comprises a set of coils that are terminated in sliprings to which external impedances can be connected. The stator is the same as is used with a standard squirrel cage motor.
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By changing the impedance connected to the rotor circuit, the speed/current and speed/torque curves can be altered.
The slip ring motor is used primarily to start a high inertia load or a load that requires a very high starting torque across the full speed range. By correctly selecting the resistors used in the secondary resistance or slip ring starter, the motor is able to produce maximum torque at a relatively low current from zero speed to full speed. A secondary use of the slip ring motor, is to provide a means of speed control. Because the torque curve of the motor is effectively modified by the resistance connected to the rotor circuit, the speed of the motor can be altered. Increasing the value of resistance on the rotor circuit will move the speed of maximum torque down. If the resistance connected to the rotor is increased beyond the point where the maximum torque occurs at zero speed, the torque will be further reduced.
When used with a load that has a torque curve that increases with speed, the motor will operate at the speed where the torque developed by the motor is equal to the load torque. Reducing the lad will cause the motor to speed up, and increasing the load will cause the motor to slow down until the load and motor torque are equal. Operated in this manner, the slip losses are dissipated in the secondary resistors and can be very significant. The speed regulation is also very poor.
Motor Characteristics.
The Slip Ring motor has two distinctly separate parts, the stator and the rotor. The stator circuit is rated as with a standard squirrel cage motor and the rotor is rated in frame voltage and short circuit current. The frame voltage is the open circuit voltage when the rotor is not rotating and gives a measure of the turns ratio between the rotor and the stator. The short circuit current is the current flowing when the motor is operating at full speed with the slip rings (rotor) shorted and full load is applied to the motor shaft.
Secondary Resistance Starters.
The secondary resistance starter comprises a contactor to switch the stator and a series of resistors that are applied to the rotor circuit and gradually reduced in value as the motor accelerates to full speed. The rotor would normally be shorted out once the motor is at full speed. The resistor values are selected to provide the torque profile required and are sized to dissipate the slip power during start. The secondary resistors can be metallic resistors such as wound resistors, plate resistors or cast resistors.
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Or they can be liquid resistors made up of saline solution or caustic soda or similar, provided there is sufficient thermal mass to absorb the total slip loss during start.
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I worked on the same type of liquid starter shown in the photograph. They were obsolete and costing a fortune to have final contacts made for them. £2500 for a set of contacts was a bit OTT, so I came up with this idea, standard Telemecanique 315A contactors working at 1.7X their normal rated voltage. The final contact in the original design were slow making so at 1250A they didn’t last long, with my set up the contacts were high speed and so didn’t get eroded. The final load current dropped from 400A+ to 150A @11KV.
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To select the values of the resistors, you need to know the frame voltage and the short circuit current. The maximum torque occurs approximately at the point where the rotor reactance equals the termination resistance. The final stage of the resistance should always be designed for a maximum torque close to full speed to prevent a very large step in current when shorting the final stage of resistance. If a single stage was used and the maximum torque occurred at 50% speed, then motor may accelerate to 60% speed, depending on the load. If the rotor was shorted at this speed, the motor would draw a very high current (typically around 1400% FLC) and produce very little torque, and would most probably stall!
High Inertia Loads
Slip ring motors are commonly used on high inertia loads because of their superior start efficiencies and their ability to withstand the inertia of the loads
When a load is started, the full speed kinetic energy of that load is dissipated in the rotor circuit. With a standard cage type induction motor, there only some motors that can be used on high inertia loads. Most will suffer rotor damage due to the power dissipated by the rotor. With the slip ring motor, the secondary resistors can be selected to provide the optimum torque curves and they can be sized to withstand the load energy without failure.
Starting a high inertia load with a standard cage motor would require between 400% and 550% start current for up to 60 seconds. Starting the same machine with a wound rotor motor (slip ring motor) would require around 200% current for around 20 seconds. A much more efficient solution.
Shorting the rings out on a slip ring motor with a high inertia load is not an option as the load energy must be dissipated in the rotor winding during start. This will cause insulation failure in the rotor circuit.
Now this is my idea of a resonable sized motor
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