Napit assessment notifiable work certificates

[ppelec100]

I’ve got my napit assessment coming up soon and I’m a little bit concerned on the whole paperwork certificate side of things…

Being completely honest I’ve carried out works which are notifiable without notifying them because let’s be honest it’s ridiculously expensive to do so with building control and I would never get any work. I have tested them, I haven’t just swung stuff in, ran away and hoped for the best.

But I’m just a little worried about if the assessor is going to pull me on if I’ve notified the works to building control or not. Especially the job I’m bringing them to, it’s a rewire I completed around August last year which is a family member’s house. I was there the other day and double checked and everything is spot on. Only a minor thing which I’ll try get sorted but is in no way dangerous, a mini trunking in the utility room has 2 end caps missing, you can only just about touch the outer sheathing of t&e that’s all.

The sales guy on the phone made it seem like I’ll be fine and was trying to get me in quick it seems but I feel like I’ve been stitched up lol. On the paperwork side of things he said to me all I need to do is fill out the blanks on some RAMS, invoice, health and safety policy, estimate and complaints sheet with me and my company details. He also said the assessor will call me before the assessment to discuss things with me.

This week the lady booking the assessment said I need to have all the stuff on the checklist and the assessor might not call me before as most of them don’t. On the checklist it says

Copies of Issued Certificates Note: Evidence of notification will also be sought where applicable

List of Building Regulations Notifications for work done within the last 12 months

Am I over thinking things? I can’t imagine that everyone registered with them and that they’ve assessed has notified building control and has all this paperwork for it?

 

[Tom256]

Nothing to fully support the following statement other than comments heard from others having worked through this process.

NAPIT want the income as per your comment of being rushed to move forward. As per the take-away point that resounds from the recent fraudulent EICR thread in that they don't act to remove the income a member generates.

As for the notifications. Remind the assessor you are a new business and so have no notifications at this time.
I know someone starting up with no work to truly show, who was told by the guy on the phone pushing them to sign up that when it came to jobs for assessment "anything you can put your name to" will do.

Part P notification scheme is not fit for purpose. Nothing to evidence it has made anything safer, perhaps the opposite.
People take the 18th edition multiple choice exam to claim '18th Edition qualified Electrican' without any core qualifications. Doing so because so many members of the public believe '18th edition' = fully qualified.
It is a scam and such is the system.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

I'm not registered BTW, but I'd just change the date on your cert to 2 weeks ago.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I didn't notify my first job when being assessed for the first time. The assessor said this is normal. This was around 10 years ago though.

It's impossible to say you won't have problems, but I'd be 99.99% sure that the worst outcome will be that they will say you should have notified it. Then they will proceed to assess you, take your money and register you.

You will be absolutely fine @ppelec100 You really would have to be absolutely bloody awful for then to refuse to register you.
Do be prepared for some 'non conformities' though. there is a lot of paperwork, so you may well slip up with something on your first assessment. This is fine, they will ask you to rectify it, send a picture and then you get registered. Same with the rewire, if you have made an error somewhere, they will ask you to rectify it, send picture, then all is ok.

We all worry, we all pass

 

[Brian Taylor]

I didn't notify my first job when being assessed for the first time. The assessor said this is normal. This was around 10 years ago though.

It's impossible to say you won't have problems, but I'd be 99.99% sure that the worst outcome will be that they will say you should have notified it. Then they will proceed to assess you, take your money and register you.

You will be absolutely fine @ppelec100 You really would have to be absolutely bloody awful for then to refuse to register you.
Do be prepared for some 'non conformities' though. there is a lot of paperwork, so you may well slip up with something on your first assessment. This is fine, they will ask you to rectify it, send a picture and then you get registered. Same with the rewire, if you have made an error somewhere, they will ask you to rectify it, send picture, then all is ok.

We all worry, we all pass

I must admit the thought of having to be assessed fills me with dread. I have been advised on another thread on here to become Part P registered in order to be able to do more work. I must admit I'm not very good with paperwork and the previous replies suggest there's a lot of it....I recall filling in an Electrical Installation Certificate when at college......it took most of the morning...it seemed quite a complicated procedure....are you expected to produce one of these for every job, or just for large complicated jobs.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I must admit the thought of having to be assessed fills me with dread. I have been advised on another thread on here to become Part P registered in order to be able to do more work. I must admit I'm not very good with paperwork and the previous replies suggest there's a lot of it....I recall filling in an Electrical Installation Certificate when at college......it took most of the morning...it seemed quite a complicated procedure....are you expected to produce one of these for every job, or just for large complicated jobs.

Have a look at the last page or 2 of an EIC. It gives 'Notes for the person producing the certificate', part of which I've pasted below.

"The Electrical Installation Certificate is to be used for:
• the initial certification of a new installation or for an addition or alteration to an existing installation
where new circuits have been introduced, or
• the replacement of a consumer unit/distribution board, or
• certifying for where there are multiple additions, or alterations or remedial works to the existing
installation which do not extend to new circuits as an alternative to the issue of multiple Minor
Electrical Installation Works Certificates."

Basically you supply an EIC if you rewire, add a new circuit or change a consumer unit. Sometimes you may have done lots of little bits (added a light, added a socket, changed a cooker switch etc) and it may be easier to fill out one EIC rather than 3 or 4 MWC's.

 

[Brian Taylor]

Have a look at the last page or 2 of an EIC. It gives 'Notes for the person producing the certificate', part of which I've pasted below.

"The Electrical Installation Certificate is to be used for:
• the initial certification of a new installation or for an addition or alteration to an existing installation
where new circuits have been introduced, or
• the replacement of a consumer unit/distribution board, or
• certifying for where there are multiple additions, or alterations or remedial works to the existing
installation which do not extend to new circuits as an alternative to the issue of multiple Minor
Electrical Installation Works Certificates."

Basically you supply an EIC if you rewire, add a new circuit or change a consumer unit. Sometimes you may have done lots of little bits (added a light, added a socket, changed a cooker switch etc) and it may be easier to fill out one EIC rather than 3 or 4 MWC's.

From what you have said does this mean that I should be writing out a certificate of some sort for the type of work that I do, eg replacement of switches, sockets etc.

 

[ppelec100]

From what you have said does this mean that I should be writing out a certificate of some sort for the type of work that I do, eg replacement of switches, sockets etc.

I don’t think it’s necessary but you can do it if you want to. I don’t think anyone would bother doing it for changing lights socket switches etc like for like

 

[ppelec100]

I'm not registered BTW, but I'd just change the date on your cert to 2 weeks ago.

The house is fully done up painted tiled furnished etc… will it not be obvious to the assessor that it was done more than 2 weeks ago?

I might be over thinking this as it’s my first time and don’t want to screw this up