New Consumer Unit Installation with Choc Box connectors

[Amp David]

Very true, but who found out that the earths hadn't been connected on the lighting and was it at every point i wonder.

 

[GT1]

Are the lights double insulated ?

Perhaps they are class 2 fittings with nowhere to terminate a CPC if they've been run in t+e. ??

 

[tigerpaul]

Are the lights double insulated ?

Perhaps they are class 2 fittings with nowhere to terminate a CPC if they've been run in t+e. ??

The cpc's should all still be continuous though, from CU through each accessory up until end of line.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Choc blocks get a bad rap.

Ultimately, they are a bit of plastic with some screw terminals in.

Just like 98% of domestic CUs.

Just saying!

 

[DaveyD]

Choc blocks get a bad rap.

Ultimately, they are a bit of plastic

Plastic! ... Plastic! Go to hell :rofl:

 

[JL_Electrical]

Sorry to go over old ground, but I'm in full agreement with this quote. My ideal method of connection is din rail connectors mounted in an enclosure, but obviously this isn't always practical. I am definitely more a fan of screw terminal connectors than crimps. I don't care what anybody says, crimps are very often a poor connection and can very easily be pulled free. I much prefer connector blocks for most situations. I suppose some of you guys are saying that you crimp downlights, pendant connections. If screw terminals are good enough for 90% of wiring accessories, then they're good enough for me. Fed up with the public receiving bad advice on forums and thinking they have a case. Like the customer who tried to hold back money because some DIY joke told her I hadn't earthed the back box of metal socket, rcd protected with a fixed lug.

Choc blocks get a bad rap.

Ultimately, they are a bit of plastic with some screw terminals in.

Just like 98% of domestic CUs.

Just saying!

 

[Amp David]

Any joint etc that has screw terminations needs to be accessible though.

Choc block are fine, in the right situations.

 

[JL_Electrical]

Goes without saying

Any joint etc that has screw terminations needs to be accessible though.

Choc block are fine, in the right situations.

 

[Engineer54]

[QUOTEI don't care what anybody says, crimps are very often a poor connection and can very easily be pulled free][/QUOTE]

Depends on the person making the crimped connection, and on the tools/materials he uses!!!
I have never had a poor or a pull out situation or any other crimped connection failure, be it with stranded or solid conductors. I certainly dispute your statement above....

 

[telectrix]

agree with engineer54 here. make the crimped joint, give the cables a tug. if it's bad they'll come out then. if it's good , it will stay good.

 

[johnboy6083]

IMO crimps are often the best (other than brazing/soldering) connections that can be made. I work for a company that carries out as lot of heavy cable work. The sacbles are often under a lot of tension when installed, especiall in moptor terminal boxes ect. We crimp lugs onto these cables, and ivenever had a crimp that was the right size come loose. I have had lugs thaa have been stamped wrong, but thats the point of pull testing all connections.
On smaller crimps, they are absolutely fine too, if you have a decent crimper. Mine cost over £50 but ive never had a crimp fail. Even using 0.5mm conductors on a red crimp, it wouldnt pull off.
If the wrong crimpers are used, or the wrong crimps, then your asking for trouble.

 

[ezzzekiel]

I like the chocolate blocks idea but think heat may melt them, maybe worth having a pir (or just a look over) from a reputable spark before taking matters further

 

[SPARTYKUS]

I like the chocolate blocks idea but think heat may melt them, maybe worth having a pir (or just a look over) from a reputable spark before taking matters further

Do you know one :teeth_smile:

You could always use those nice ceramic ones

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Id rather use screwed connectors than insulated crimps on solid core conductors every time....but am now starting to use lever type wago's. Properly done a screwed connector is fine,poorly done on a solid core a crimp, so beloved of many, is far more of a bodge.

 

[i=p/u]

well why not crimp them and thennn put in big connector block, ahhhhh double whammy... only thing is , it looks poo ..

would you say wagos give any better connection.