new cu changes 1st jan/16

[scootknew]

can someone please clarify this for me im at my wits end,

there are currently no plastic fuse boxes that are non cumbustible for sale from wholesales?

if fit a plastic cu, need to box it in with plaster board ect?

if i wire in new circuit from a new plastic cu to say a socket in hallway, i cant issue minor works cert? then its a fail? then say the client who wanted a £50 socket wired to hall needs to pay 100's to ge cu changed to metal? or enclose it? whos responsibility is it to enclose it? a joniner or builder? they will prob change a **** load too?

any info much appreacited

 

[davesparks]

yes its for scotland private landlords. surley plastic cu is now fire hazard as cud potentially burst into flames coz loose neutrals. so wud be c2 code. c2 is unsatisfactory. which means flat dont have ecir, therefore no tenants move in, so what does landlord do? pay ton of dosh for metal cu?

It has exactly the same potential as it did before amd3 came in.

Check the bloody connections are tight while you are doing the EICR!

 

[scootknew]

ok chaps try this one on for size.

eicr flags up no rcd in consumer unit, only mcbs and 100a main switch, in order to comply with regs, fuse box needs changed to dual rcd metal , gutten nacht

 

[scootknew]

i must also stress. swim is asking me these questions

 

[telectrix]

ok chaps try this one on for size.

Eicr flags up no rcd in consumer unit, only mcbs and 100a main switch, in order to comply with regs, fuse box needs changed to dual rcd metal , gutten nacht

wrong!!!!

 

[Englishman]

Ignoring the dense man with the ironic name. I put a c3 down if the CU is in a hallway, by the front door or under the stairs. If it's elsewhere, I often note it by don't code.

But, I want people's thoughts. Do you consider the lovely Mantel units to be sufficient as a "non combustible enclosure"? I'm generally classing it as so, as long as it stays shut, but if be interested to hear other opinions.

 

[Octopus]

wrong!!!!

maybe he is going to read the best practice guide as bedtime reading!

 

[Simonslimline]

Crikey!!!

This thread is getting rather boring.

Hopefully a windup for the OP's sake.

 

[Dcf]

An existing board with mcbs and no rcd protection is a c3 as long as the requirements for ADS are met on an eicr.

 

[andyb]

ok chaps try this one on for size.

eicr flags up no rcd in consumer unit, only mcbs and 100a main switch, in order to comply with regs, fuse box needs changed to dual rcd metal , gutten nacht

What are you guys smoking these days north of the border?

 

[telectrix]

An existing board with mcbs and no rcd protection is a c3 as long as the requirements for ADS are met on an eicr.

EXCEPT SOCKETS FOR OUTSIDE USE AND BATHROOMS WITHOUT SUPP. BONDING, THEY'S BOTH c2

 

[davesparks]

ok chaps try this one on for size.

eicr flags up no rcd in consumer unit, only mcbs and 100a main switch, in order to comply with regs, fuse box needs changed to dual rcd metal , gutten nacht

Eicr flags up no RCD - end of story, you don't have to fix it, you just have to note it down.
There is no requirement in the regs for dual RCD, and if you take a strict interpretation of the regs then a dual RCD board doesn't comply.

 

[Andy78]

What are you guys smoking these days north of the border?

Probably something they deep fry first.

 

[Dcf]

maybe he is going to read the best practice guide as bedtime reading!

I hope so.

 

[davesparks]

Ignoring the dense man with the ironic name. I put a c3 down if the CU is in a hallway, by the front door or under the stairs. If it's elsewhere, I often note it by don't code.

But, I want people's thoughts. Do you consider the lovely Mantel units to be sufficient as a "non combustible enclosure"? I'm generally classing it as so, as long as it stays shut, but if be interested to hear other opinions.

Which regulation makes a differentiation between hallways and under stairs areas?

 

[Englishman]

Crikey!!!

This thread is getting rather boring.

Hopefully a windup for the OP's sake.

It doesn't look that way. I pity anybody who lets him loose on their electrics.